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    Posted: 12-May-2009 at 23:09
The flies "dive-bomb" the fire ants and lay eggs. The maggot that hatches inside the ant eats away at the brain, and the ant starts exhibiting what some might say is zombie-like behavior.
 
Thought you would like that Knights!
 
Parasitic flies turn fire ants into zombies
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wow that is interesting - biological control vs. using poisons- I can support this!!!

Hopefully some global elite mad scientist does not genetically engineer this for humans. Hmmm come to think of it maybe they have-


I read about an ant from the Philippines which has made it to parts of North America whose sting is a lot worse than a fire ant.

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That's fascinating, and hopefully this ends up being a successful story of scientists using nature to fix a natural pest. A billion per year for Texas alone is a bit much.
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seen it on TV with that fly hitting them from above. It was one of the US animal shows like a week or so ago - top ten most 'extreme' parasites-  very American.  did a Google search

found this fantastic shot

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http://scienceblogs.com/photosynthesis/2009/04/slow_death_from_the_skies_phor.php

http://www.usda-sabcl.org/projects/IFA.htm#Images
http://www.utexas.edu/features/archive/2004/ants.html


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Originally posted by Constantine XI

That's fascinating, and hopefully this ends up being a successful story of scientists using nature to fix a natural pest. A billion per year for Texas alone is a bit much.
we need something for cane toads
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I really hate red ants and I wipe out any nests in my yard but these are not fire ants. The fire ants are not native to North America so it is too bad this insect could not wipe them out. The sting of a regular red ant hurts bad enough so I cannot imagine what the sting of these nasty ants feel like.
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According to Wikipedia, this is a scale describing pain of stings - very strange description, as if it's wine or something? I guess a bullet ant sting is nasty?
 
  • 1.0 Sweat bee: Light, ephemeral, almost fruity. A tiny spark has singed a single hair on your arm.
  • 1.2 Fire ant: Sharp, sudden, mildly alarming. Like walking across a shag carpet & reaching for the light switch.
  • 1.8 Bullhorn acacia ant: A rare, piercing, elevated sort of pain. Someone has fired a staple into your cheek.
  • 2.0 Bald-faced hornet: Rich, hearty, slightly crunchy. Similar to getting your hand mashed in a revolving door.
  • 2.0 Yellowjacket: Hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue.
  • 2.x Honey bee and European hornet: Like a matchhead that flips off and burns on your skin.
  • 3.0 Red harvester ant: Bold and unrelenting. Somebody is using a drill to excavate your ingrown toenail.
  • 3.0 Paper wasp: Caustic & burning. Distinctly bitter aftertaste. Like spilling a beaker of hydrochloric acid on a paper cut.
  • 4.0 Tarantula hawk: Blinding, fierce, shockingly electric. A running hair drier has been dropped into your bubble bath.
  • 4.0+ Bullet ant: Pure, intense, brilliant pain. Like fire-walking over flaming charcoal with a 3-inch rusty nail in your heel.
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    Be glad that youre not a Satere-Mawe person, because:
     
    "The Satere-Mawe people of Brazil use intentional bullet ant stings as part of their initiation rites to become a warrior."


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    Jams that list is great. Not only for the ranking of pain but the similarity to Whiskey tasting.

    After a few wee drams here are the latest taste tests!

    Macallan 18 year old (now known as the Fire Ant)-
    More complex than the 12-year-old, with a nose that explodes onto the senses: mild, sweet, with peach pits, heather honey, wet, tanned leather, vanilla, orange peel, and just the faintest hint of peat...

    Lagavulin 16 year old (the dreaded Bullet Ant) -
    Massive, peat-smoke typical of southern Islay, yet with a dry finish & a hint of salt that makes up a classy package. It has a long finish with great complexity. Not for the beginner

    Of course one can't forget Africa's special vat -

    The
    Siafu - aka, African Ants! - Ravaging, takes your breath away, burns the palate, beware of this cask strength bully.

    Here's the official low down: http://aetoy.com/10-deadliest-insects.html

    Twenty million ants strong, one single colony can ravage the African countryside obliterating everything in their path. When food shortages present themselves, the colony as a whole will march through whatever happens to be in its path in order to acquire sustenance. Though not difficult to avoid, the very young or elderly can find themselves victims of asphyxiation and 20-50 die each year as well as thousands of dollars in foodstuffs damage yearly.









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    Post Options Post Options   Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2009 at 21:45
    Originally posted by Seko


    Jams that list is great. Not only for the ranking of pain but the similarity to Whiskey tasting. After a few wee drams here are the latest taste tests!Macallan 18 year old (now known as the Fire Ant)- <font style="font-size: 9pt;" face="Arial">More complex than the 12-year-old, with
    a nose that explodes onto the senses: mild, sweet, with peach pits, heather
    honey, wet, tanned leather, vanilla, orange peel, and just the faintest hint of
    peat... Lagavulin 16 year old (the dreaded Bullet Ant) - <font style="font-size: 9pt;" face="Arial">Massive, peat-smoke typical of southern
    Islay, yet with a dry finish & a hint of salt that makes up a classy
    package. It has a long finish with great complexity. Not for the beginnerOf course one can't forget Africa's special vat - The Siafu - aka, African Ants! - Ravaging, takes your breath away, burns the palate, beware of this cask strength bully.Here's the official low down: http://aetoy.com/10-deadliest-insects.html


    Twenty million ants strong, one single colony can ravage the African
    countryside obliterating everything in their path. When food shortages present
    themselves, the colony as a whole will march through whatever happens to be in
    its path in order to acquire sustenance. Though not difficult to avoid, the very
    young or elderly can find themselves victims of asphyxiation and 20-50 die each
    year as well as thousands of dollars in foodstuffs damage yearly.

    <font style="font-size: 9pt;" face="Arial">


    Yummm red ants

    Actually red ants make a good spice. On one of my wilderness trips a few years back we gathered red ants and cooked them on a skillet and then ground them up and added them to the wild plant salad and trout we caught. It makes food a bit spicy hot but more tasty-try it sometime but not with fire ants. Regular red ants hurt enough when they sting. Black ants are rather bland so I prefer red ants. Eating grubs is another survival test but I do not suggest it- gag!! gag gag with a big spoon
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    Post Options Post Options   Quote Dacian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jun-2009 at 18:46
    Originally posted by Constantine XI

    That's fascinating, and hopefully this ends up being a successful story of scientists using nature to fix a natural pest. A billion per year for Texas alone is a bit much.


    playing with fire usually results in burns and to explain it if 1billion/yr sounds much maybe but after playing with the ecosystem and altering it you might find the costs actually multiply

    since the nature-fixing has been ongoing for mankind has been a run like....destroy this "pest", then 40-50years later...ohhh the 10-20 species die out

    just a thought
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    Post Options Post Options   Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 00:24
    Many thanks for posting this topic Seko - it is chilling and fascinating at the same time! It actually reminded me of a similar behaviour exhibited by some rainforest ants, after being infiltrated by certain types of fungi. The fungi spores enter the body and slowly kill physiological function, sparking zombie-like behaviour before quite a haunting death.

    But it's probably best if you hear it from the master himself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCOQ0VU24xw

    It's just a short clip from 'Planet Earth' where Attenborough talks about the cordyceps fungus and its effect on rainforest ants. Great visuals and fitting music.

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    Post Options Post Options   Quote Seko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 13:50
    Mmm, tasty. The weird thing is that cordyceps is also taken as a nutritional supplement. No wonder, sometimes I feel like I'm an automaton and words fall off the keyboard without any sense of direction.

    Good post Knights!




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    Post Options Post Options   Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 14:16
    Thanks; and I didn't know that cordyceps was used as a nutritional supplement, so I went and investigated a bit. Turns out it is also used as the basis for pharmaceuticals used in organ transplants as an immunosuppressive drug.

    Oh and Constantine - the cordyceps fungus has been used as a biological insect pest control, so there certainly is potential for the flies as well.

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