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Poll Question: Would you bring everything into existence
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    Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 09:05
This post is inspired by Dostoyevsky's, The Brother's Karamazov,
 
The question is,
 
Imagine, at the dawn of time, you have to face the same choice as God, to bring everything into existence or not.
 
In full knowledge of all the sufferering and cruelty that happenned over the millenia, poverty, genocide, famine, war, pestilance, torture.
 
...... would you create the world or avoid all this human suffering by not bringing about it's existence?
 
 


Edited by Paul - 31-Jul-2006 at 09:07
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Yes, if we didn't exist god would have died from boredom!

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Nope, biggest mistake He ever made, us.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 11:05
I think Paul that you made wrong question. Its not about "to be or not to be" but.... "what for?"
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well a lot people prefer to live, even they suffer greatly. I think I would create

Edited by Mortaza - 31-Jul-2006 at 12:18
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cezar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 14:04
Why not? Being "God" why should I have human moral values? Think of it, I create ... everything, then a guy (Dosty) asks a rethorical question? Well, he wouldn't had the ability to ask if I wouldn't have created him, would he?
How about "uncreating"? Maybe I should try Lev.
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No, actually I would destroy myself. Existence is madness.
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I would create them. But I would keep them in line! Adolf Hitler, Would of died at birth if i was god.
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God was(and still) great, but God want to be known and soo human had created.

Edited by erkut - 31-Jul-2006 at 22:47
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Originally posted by erkut erkut wrote:

God was(and still) great, but God want to be known and soo human had created.



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I'm not usually... "don't talk about this, it's against my religion" ...and I'm not even entirely sure if it is or not... but this question makes me very, very uncomfortable. Laugh if you like, I'm laughing at myself... but wow? I'm afraid to answer, or even think on it long enough to come up with one.

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No, actually I would destroy myself. Existence is madness.
 
You cant, remember God cannot be destroyed, suicide is not a freedom of  god.
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Originally posted by Feanor Feanor wrote:

Originally posted by erkut erkut wrote:

God was(and still) great, but God want to be known and soo human had created.



 
 
I think he means it is no use being God if no-one worships you, so humankind had to be created for His ego and convenience.
 

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Originally posted by Paul Paul wrote:

This post is inspired by Dostoyevsky's, The Brother's Karamazov,
 
The question is,
 
Imagine, at the dawn of time, you have to face the same choice as God, to bring everything into existence or not.
 
In full knowledge of all the sufferering and cruelty that happenned over the millenia, poverty, genocide, famine, war, pestilance, torture.
 
...... would you create the world or avoid all this human suffering by not bringing about it's existence?
 
 
who says it was a true choice to create if that was how it happened. Even nothing needs something as a comparative opposite.



Edited by Leonidas - 01-Aug-2006 at 07:05
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I would create, then after a prolonged period of existence make every being who has ever existed vote collectively on whether, looking back on their existence, they would rather existence had happened at all. If the "no" votes are triumphant I destroy everything, including myself (like I am gunna stick around with literally nothing, how boring).
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Originally posted by Mortaza Mortaza wrote:

No, actually I would destroy myself. Existence is madness.

You cant, remember God cannot be destroyed, suicide is not a freedom of god.

I guess he is not the Almighty then?

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Originally posted by Mila Mila wrote:

I'm not usually... "don't talk about this, it's against my religion"
...and I'm not even entirely sure if it is or not... but this question
makes me very, very uncomfortable. Laugh if you like, I'm
laughing at myself... but wow? I'm afraid to answer, or even think on
it long enough to come up with one.

It's only natural. Religions are like that.

When you begin to question them, you feel guilty. And you stop.

You try to make yourself believe that you are not meant to understand the divinity.


    
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Originally posted by Feanor Feanor wrote:

Originally posted by Mila Mila wrote:

I'm not usually... "don't talk about this, it's against my religion"
...and I'm not even entirely sure if it is or not... but this question
makes me very, very uncomfortable. Laugh if you like, I'm
laughing at myself... but wow? I'm afraid to answer, or even think on
it long enough to come up with one.

It's only natural. Religions are like that.

When you begin to question them, you feel guilty. And you stop.

You try to make yourself believe that you are not meant to understand the divinity.


    

    
This is very true, the people who can see teh truth are the ones who can overcome the guilt and see throught the lies! Our are all us Atheiest/agnostic's just seeing the lies through all the truth? Its hard to say. Questioning your faith is the best way to strengthen your faith. I was a christian, until i quetioned ym faith. I wish there was a god, but i jsut cannot see how there could be


God has to have like a "Self Destruct" button on himself!
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I would have made us, oh yes, the ultimate reality show is a world war after all.  But I would have been FAR more creative with what I was working abd put at least 5 sentient species on Earth rather than just one.  And have some others not too far off in the cosmos.
 
Oh yeah, and there would be no fat people!
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