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This is a good post as I feel the relationship Pakistani's have with Turkey (and vice versa) is a very strong one.  I remember once I was on a trip to the US and reading in the lobby of my hotel where I was staying.  A fellow along with his wife were trying to find the way to the gym in the lobby and happened to come up to me to see if I knew where it was..(I didnt!).. anyhow, interestingly enough, as we got to talking his wife asked where I was from and I said Pakistan, and was greeted with the biggest smile, hugs and kisses in the world..  I then asked them where they were from and they enthusiastically replied ''your brother from Turkey!!'' next thing i know we were hugging, kissing, smiling and laughing and the whole lobby was confused as to what was going on.  It was an incredible feeling.  it was as if two long last families had been re-united after a century of seperation!!
I feel our bond with Turkey is a special one that cannot easily be defined.  It transcends modern religious, political or ideological explanations as have been attempted here.  it comes from our hearts and souls.
During the Earthquake in Pakistan several years back, the Turkish government and more importantly the people of Turkey offered considerable aid, assistance, support and love to the people of Pakistan.  They are truly a blessed people.  God bless Turkey and its people and I hope our friendship with them only gets stronger and stronger.
P.S.  Pakistan is a multicultural nation that is made up of diverse people. Pakistani's dont have any plans, designs or for that matter anything in common with North western india, apart from maybe the last river of the Panjab region.  Our only struggle is to liberate our brothers and sisters in Kashmir who are currently under indian occupation and subject to horrendous attrocities, crimes, rapes and torture.  They need to be allowed to return to their motherland and with their kinsmen in Pakistan with whom they share geography, culture, language, religion and history with as they are not indian, never were and will never be indian despite attempts to make them so.  The were never supposed to be part of that country. We can count on the support of genuine humanitarists, human rights activists, people who believe in justice/principals and our allies and friends around the world such as Turkey who continue to help us in our struggle to liberate and free the Kashmiri's from indian subjugation.  60 years of brute force have only re-inforced this notion and strenghtened our resolve.
Also, I just wanted to add, Turkey's system of government is a role model for many other middle eastern countries and countries such as Pakistan has much to learn from them.  I have been to Turkey on numerous occasions and refuse to accept this stereotype that they are somehow ''un-Islamic''.  Turkey much like Pakistan has its fair share of Orthodox Muslims, secular Muslims and Urban youths just as would be found on the streets of Karachi or Lahore.  The fact that they are more open and honest about it is something to appreciate.  Also, much like Pakistan, Turkey is also multi-ethnic and multi-religious in that there are many minorities with many sub-denominations freely practising their religious obligations.  I for one appreciated the cosmopolitan and ''lessez faire'' attitudes prevalent in Istanbul where on the very same avenue you'll see someone wearing a dress, traditional outfit, business suit, or relgious ''chadar'' covering the hair.. that to me is a more healthier system which seems to work. 
In Karachi, Pakistan, technically its no different for you'll see people essentially doing and dressing as they pleased (be it jeans, shalwar-qameez, t-shirts or orthodox outfits), despite all the pressures to control them by certain religious fanatics, people still want to comfortable and free to dress as they please, the way it should be.  So differences are not so great.  Pakistan itself was established by a secular Muslim who didnt want a theocratic state but a secular one much on the lines of Turkey, but governments, religious parties (who mind you, put many obstacles in the way to achieving Pakistan) and military dictators that followed the Great Quaid-e-Azam of Pakistan, did much to distort his dream and we can see the consequences of those decisions.  Despite all of this, the relationship between the two countries continues to flourish...
Turkey and Pakistan are not just close friends, they are Family :)

Edited by MarcoPolo - 07-Jun-2008 at 22:12
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Originally posted by kafkas kafkas wrote:

Originally posted by Mughaal Mughaal wrote:

Boggles my mind.
-pro secular/anti islamic
-europeanized turks
-speak turkish
-seek membership in EU and want to look European
-pro islamic/semi secular
-hindified/indianized people
-speak urdu (form of hindi)
-seek to conqer India one day
What do these two nations have in common exactly?

Mughaal judging from your previous posts you seem to have a grudge against Turks, either that or you are grossly ignorant about them.

1. Turks aren't anti-Islamic just because they don't want to adhere to your interpretation of what piety is.
2. Turks don't want to "look European", actually the majority of Turks have ancestry in either the Balkans and the Caucasus,the rest in Anatolia. 

Also President Musharraf lived in Turkey from ages 7-13 and was went to school in Ankara. There have been quite a few important "Turkophile" Pakistani leaders, and most Turks appreciate that.

In fact,most Turkish are European looking.
There was a report in US Time magazine that Musharraf ideally modeled himself on Ataturk,the founder of modern Turkey.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote baku Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2009 at 09:34


1.mulim of subcontinet were only people who supported the ottoman empire.

2.due to the muslim brotherhood the muslim brotherhood.
3.pakistan gives traning to turkish officers every year.
secondly urdu i not a form of hindi urdui a languagemade frommany other language
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GökTürk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2009 at 12:43
Babur Empire have dominated Pakistan Gheographia for 300 years.So Taj Mahal was built by Cihan Şah.Also 2 Cultures are similar.
A small note:Pakistan is first Muslim state which has accepted Turkey's Indenependent.
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