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Originally posted by IamJoseph IamJoseph wrote:

Quote   to reach a public as broad as possible (including Pakistanis)
 
 
Pakistanis are more Indians than Pakistanis - a new contrived nation carved out of the Indian sub-continent some 60 years old. Their background culture, despite the different religion, is Indian, and these Muslims are different from Muslims in other countries by this fact. Urdu also is Indian, spoken by Indian muslims with Islamic words. A prominant Indian Muslim actor, for example, is more Indian than Muslim, and his culture, being one of tolerance and able to interact with all peoples, will be at odds in a purely muslim country.
 
The Indian muslims used to be very blended with others in India, making them as different from other muslims - but this has changed the past few decades because of the Arab regimes establishing Madarassas which have poisoned Muslim minds in India - a premise which will never be acknowledged, but evident from the terrorist attacks in this most hospitable nation to Muslims.
 
Please do not use this thread to stirr another indian-Pakistani arguement.
 
It's well known indians call alot of cultures and nations "indian"
The imginary "greater indian" spanned all the way into central asia which is nonsense and has is not something this thread is about.
 
The topic of this thread is how Hindi and Urdu are similar. Both belong to the Indo-European family. Where did you get the Hebrew connection from??? Hebrew is a semitic language, a subbranch of Afro-Asiatic.
How can you get 2 indo-European languages from an Afro-Asiatic language???


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Also another thing to add is that Urdu is not an "indian" language. There is no such thing as an "indian" language. The languages of india are divided into several unrelated families, most notebly dravidian, indo-European and Sino-Tibetian. All completely unrelated.

To call a language "indian" is to call a language "Soviet" No such thing

Many languages were spoken in the former USSR, grouped into several unrelated families; all unrelated.



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Originally posted by Cryptic Cryptic wrote:

I got is a debate with some co-workers about the following questions....
 
- How similar are Udru and Hindi in general? 
- How similar are the two languages when spoken by educated people who are not using slang, rural dialects or have strong local accents?
 
Simple. As similar as Serbian and Croatian. Different scripts, plus hindi also has some questionable Dravidian influences.
 
But if you wanna go into their origines then like all Indo-European languages, Hindi & Urdu originate somewhere between the black sea and the Baltaic region
 
A simplified chart of the Indo-European family sums it up:



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Originally posted by jayeshks jayeshks wrote:

I think the popular theory is that they're both derived from Aramaic.  Arabic as a direct descendant and Devanagri as a development of Brahmi which is thought to be inspired by Aramaic.  
A chart of the Semitic family just to clear up some misconceptions:

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