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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 02:17

Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival ArmenianSurvival wrote:

Not only can U.S. troops be deployed on American soil in the event of a loosely-defined "emergency" situation, but so can Canadian troops. 

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Seriously though ... Canadian troops deploy in the US all the time, not only for training exercises but also for live exercises. Eg, during Hurricane Katrina.

And frankly, if you were in the sort of situation where a national emergency demanded martial law, you'd probably be better off if you happened to be in some area where Canadian, rather than American, forces were operating. We have far more strict rules of engagement and we are far more disciplined in following them. It would take much more than a riot for Canadian troops to fire live rounds on American civilians. That's not always the case with US forces - they have been known in many instances to respond to rocks and bottles with (nonrubber) automatic fire.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ArmenianSurvival Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 07:42
I didn't say Canadian soldiers were better or worse than U.S. soldiers, and its irrelevant to my message. I want to focus more on the fact that we are losing our sovereignty all for the sake of integrating North America into a single entity against the will of the vast majority of its people, which will do nothing less than abolish all national constitutions, and thus, put our most fundamental rights at risk. A big step in this direction is the integration of Canadian, American and Mexican armies, which is already underway. You have to realize that the people who hold true power on this continent (not the puppet politicians) do not see themselves as Canadian, American or Mexican... they see themselves as globalists first and foremost, and their only loyalty is to their own class, not to the nations they pretend to serve.
 
Allowing the Feds to control state infrastructure and deploy the army in the event of a "national emergency" * basically means that we are ignoring some of the most important safegaurds in our constitution--- namely, not allowing the Feds to centralize power, which they have been doing at an alarming rate for the past few years. This is the biggest threat to our fundamental rights, even according to the founders. The founders were (rightly) weary of American troops deployed on American soil, let alone soldiers from another country, whether they are from Canada, Mexico or wherever. It concentrates too much power into the federal government, which brings us closer to dictatorship. The whole point of having state governments with their own militias in the first place is to prevent this scenario. Now, state government is nothing more than a layer of bureaucracy which takes its orders from federal agencies, and their militias have been integrated and put under the control of the federal army.
 
Plus, it works both ways. Canada and Mexico can have US soldiers patrolling their cities in case of a national emergency. Yep, American troops watching over you at a time when all your rights have been suspended. Hope that makes you feel safe.
 
 
* By executive order (common in a dictatorship), a 200-point drop in the stock market can be considered a national emergency, and many have argued we are already in de-facto martial law. Its not unrealistic when you consider they have already announced 20,000 troops to be deployed on active duty on US soil by 2011 (look at some of my earlier posts). That is the first step, which is the hardest to take, but they have done it. After that, its not hard to imagine 50,000 troops, and in a decade or two, hundreds of thousands of troops patrolling every major city. They are shifting their focus from "terrorists", onto those who dissent. The Patriot Acts are the cornerstone of their policy of turning American citizens into suspects, whom they can incarcerate without charge and herd into camps. They are slowly conditioning the population to accept these measures of militarization and surveillance, which the people would never have allowed had they been more awake.
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Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival ArmenianSurvival wrote:

A big step in this direction is the integration of Canadian, American and Mexican armies, which is already underway.

That isn't really news, the Ogendsburg Agreement is nearly 70 years old and integrates American and Canadian forces for continental defence and civil emergencies under the Permanent Joint Board of Defence.

A little factoid Jeff Rense etc choose to keep under wraps ...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ArmenianSurvival Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Feb-2009 at 19:25

Hadn't heard of that particular agreement, thanks for bringing it up. Although I can't find much information on it, it looks to be a general framework, while the bill I highlighted is probably an expansion of these already established parameters of previous agreements, most notably including Mexico into the fold of military integration which the Ogdensburg Agreement doesn't do.

What I did find out about the bill you mentioned was that some Canadian politicians at that time complained it is harmful because it integrates Canada into the US. I am on the same frequency as these guys. The information you brought to light just goes to show you how persistent these globalists are in creating continental super-states at the expense of nations.
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I wasn't able to make any posts the past couple of weeks because of exams, even though there have been some developments during this timeframe. Keeping consistent with what I said earlier in this thread, the government wants the public to get used to seeing uniformed soldiers in civilian life in order to slowly desensitize them to a future martial law scenario. Here are some recent stories which back up my point:

Feds, Arizona State officials, to conduct "major disaster drill" on Arizona State University campus: http://asunews.asu.edu/20090226_coyotecrisis

U.S. Army puts soldiers on Alabama streets in response to shootings:  http://www.infowars.com/us-army-puts-soldiers-on-the-street-in-alabama-in-response-to-shootings/?

Another one of the key points I have tried to highlight in this thread is the continuing integration of local police departments and the military. In short, there is an ever-increasing militarization, federalization and centralization of all officers whether they are police or military. This is done under the guise of improving both police and military training, but it only works to integrate these entities and centralize their power into fewer hands.
 
Washington State cops start "liaison program" with U.S. Army:  http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/crime/story/654411.html#none
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Lately many of us have heard the calls from Gordon Brown and other elite statesmen that the most logical conclusion of the financial crisis is the establishment of a "new world order", in order to prevent future financial crises. This includes international bodies being given unprecedented powers and calls for a global currency. The head of the World Bank recently echoed these sentiments on the eve of the G20 summit: http://www.infowars.com/world-bank-president-admits-agenda-for-global-government/
 
 
[Speaking about the agenda to increase not just funding but power for international organizations on the back of the financial crisis, Zoellick stated, “If leaders are serious about creating new global responsibilities or governance, let them start by modernising multilateralism to empower the WTO, the IMF, and the World Bank Group to monitor national policies.”

In other words, give global institutions the power to regulate national policy as part of the creation of global government.

What Zoellick is outlining is essentially the end of national sovereignty and the reclassification of national governments as mere subordinates to a global authority that is completely unaccountable to the voting public of any country.]

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