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    Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 00:11

How to discern Turanian people:

Die türkischen Steppenvölker Zentralasiens lebten mit Mongolen und Skhyten von der außenwelt abgeschottet jahrhundertelang als Nomaden zusammen. Für die Europäer waren die Hunnen nicht europäisch, für die Chinesen waren sie fremdartige Menschen mit stärkerem Bartwuchs, größerer Erscheinung und hatten längere Nasen. Wie sahen sie eigentlich aus?? In der Fachsprache heißt es Turanid.... Hervorstechende Wangenknochen, mandelförmig geschlitzte (Katzen)augen usw..

 

Turanian race includes races who lived in central asia.
Most Caucasian+Iranoid+Mongoloid (or Indianid).

 But Turanoid is not a "new race". Even the huns were Turanoids. The chineese said they had strong growth of beard. This sounds not mongoloid! They were some blond huns. This sounds not mongoloid, too..


Mongoloid:

Turanoid:

Iranoid-Dinarid (Iranian and Greek)
 

As you can see Turanoid is something like the step between Caucasoid and Mongoloid....









Mongoloid and Turanoid is not the same. Turanoid has caucasoid essencence.

Mongoloid:

Turanoid:

Turanoid Tajik girl:

First picture is an Iranian-Prototype; Second is one of a Turkic-Prototype(Dinarid-Turanid):

Other Turkish profiles from Central-Asia:

 
http://www.geocities.com/refuting_rc/tatpic26
http://www.geocities.com/ie_to_the_core/tatpic29.txt
http://www.geocities.com/ie_to_the_core/tatpic30.txt

 

 

KÜL TEGIN___(Kül (Köl, Gül, Göl) Tigin Khan Bengü Ýnançu Apa Tarkan Taþý) (685 - 731 or 732 AD) was a Turkic leader. He was the son of Ilteris Sad and brother of Bilge Khan and co-ruler of the Gokturk Empire from 716.
He was killed in a war against a branch of Oghuz Turks in 731 or 732 AD. His life story and advices on state administration are carved on one of the monuments known as the Orkhon inscriptions. 
 




Turkic/Turanian prototype skull




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 03:38

Turan and Turanians (in the contemporary sense) are two different names.

What you diplayed is a peoples mixture that happened after c.a. 550 when Turks conquered Central Asia. Original Turan belonged to H'yaona also known as Chionites an Indo-European tribe which moved West along with the Abars and were known as Avars in Europe.   

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How to discern Turanian people:

Die türkischen Steppenvölker Zentralasiens lebten mit Mongolen und Skhyten von der außenwelt abgeschottet jahrhundertelang als Nomaden zusammen. Für die Europäer waren die Hunnen nicht europäisch, für die Chinesen waren sie fremdartige Menschen mit stärkerem Bartwuchs, größerer Erscheinung und hatten längere Nasen. Wie sahen sie eigentlich aus?? In der Fachsprache heißt es Turanid.... Hervorstechende Wangenknochen, mandelförmig geschlitzte (Katzen)augen usw..

I wish I could speak German my ancestral language!!!

Turanian race includes races who lived in central asia.
Most Caucasian+Iranoid+Mongoloid (or Indianid).

I enjoyed this post and I can see the Caucasiod and Mongoloid features in some of the people pictured here. I have never heard of Iranoid.
They had a really neat exhibit at the local museum in Spokane about modern art from the Turkic regions, former Soviet Union.

We do have art and culture even in backwards Spokane-
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 00:08
A Tajiki is not a Turanian, maybe a minority of them, but not the majority. Thought I should point that out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 00:35
I need to get myself a Turanian girl.
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A typical Turkmen family from central asia...

A Turkmen horseman...

Warior Turkish women from Altay, the homeland of Göktürks...

Some Turkish villagers left in Macedonia from Ottoman time, a Yörük village...

Saha (Yakut) Turks from Eastern Russia...

Turks are everywhere, from USA to Algeria, From Germany to Eastern Russia, from Mongolia to Iraq... All these people are examples of Turanians...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 10:43

Originally posted by Dari Dari wrote:

A Tajiki is not a Turanian, maybe a minority of them, but not the majority. Thought I should point that out.

I know... this girl belongs to the minority!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 03:21
Oguzoglu, how come Yakuts are Turks? They Tungusic people, and have never been under Turkic control. The common thing between them is, that they have been classified under the Altaic family, which isn't now thought to be quite accurate or even real.

BTW, now that we are talking about central Asian people, do you know any sites on their languages?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 14:01
Originally posted by Oguzoglu Oguzoglu wrote:


A typical Turkmen family from central asia...



A Turkmen horseman...



Warior Turkish women from Altay, the homeland of Göktürks...



Some Turkish villagers left in Macedonia from Ottoman time, a Yörük village...



Saha (Yakut) Turks from Eastern Russia...


Turks are everywhere, from USA to Algeria, From Germany to Eastern Russia, from Mongolia to Iraq... All these people are examples of Turanians...



Nice family! They look like people I can have great resepct for. I thought in the last image the girl almost looks Aztec.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 16:33
Turanoid is not a race, it's a sub-race.

Quote KÜL TEGIN___(Kül (Köl, Gül, Göl) Tigin Khan Bengü Ýnançu Apa Tarkan Taþý) (685 - 731 or 732 AD) was a Turkic leader. He was the son of Ilteris Sad and brother of Bilge Khan and co-ruler of the Gokturk Empire from 716.
He was killed in a war against a branch of Oghuz Turks in 731 or 732 AD. His life story and advices on state administration are carved on one of the monuments known as the Orkhon inscriptions.

Köl Tigin was the brother of Bilge Qaghan (not Khan) and he didn't have "Khan" in his title. Neither was he the co-ruler of the Eastern Gök Türk Qaghanate, his brother Mojilian was the sole ruler with the title Bilge Qaghan. Besides, Köl Tigin wasn't killed by the Toquz Oghuz in 731 because the Oghuz Rebellion was over by 716.

Quote Warior Turkish women from Altay, the homeland of Göktürks...

Well in this case they're Warrior Turkic Women because today, the term Turkish is used only for the citizens of the Republic of Turkey.

Quote Oguzoglu, how come Yakuts are Turks? They Tungusic people, and have never been under Turkic control. The common thing between them is, that they have been classified under the Altaic family, which isn't now thought to be quite accurate or even real.

Yaquts are a Turkic people (more correctly, geneticially mixed between Turkic and Tungusic but they're culturally Turkic) and they speak a language/dialect which is cathegorised inside the Siberian group of Turkic language groups.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 20:12

Originally posted by ihsan ihsan wrote:

Turanoid is not a race, it's a sub-race.

 

And which race do you classify them? 70% Caucasoid 30% Mongoloid ??????????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 11:54
Can everyone see all of the photos that I posted?
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köroglu, posting with large letters is not allowed in this forum.

Turanoid is a sub-race of the Caucasoid race, taht's all I know.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Apr-2005 at 19:38
I'm a bit confused now, isn't Turan located in the east of Iran? Something like Turks of centeral asia? so how's that connected to turks of turkey?
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Originally posted by Behrouz Behrouz wrote:

I'm a bit confused now, isn't Turan located in the east of Iran? Something like Turks of centeral asia? so how's that connected to turks of turkey?

It is very simple.

Turkey's Turks has migrated from those lands to Anatolia and during time they have mixed with locals.

The root of the word TURAN which is TUR and the root of the world TURK or TURUK is the same. Both are TUR-.

More examples of Anatolian Turks.

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 01:45

Originally posted by Behrouz Behrouz wrote:

I'm a bit confused now, isn't Turan located in the east of Iran? Something like Turks of centeral asia? so how's that connected to turks of turkey?

It is very simple.

Turkey's Turks have migrated from those lands to Anatolia and during time they have mixed with locals.

The root of the word TURAN which is TUR and the root of the world TURK or TURUK is the same. Both are TUR-.

More examples of Anatolian Turks.

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 03:04

Turan isnt Eastern Iran. It is the common name of all the lands from Turkmenistan to Eastern Turkestan in China. It is an Iranic name, but "Tur" belief is the root of both the names "Turk" and "Turan". Turks immigrated those lands since ancient times and most of todays Turks are Turanoid originated, including Uighur Turks.

 

Uighur kids from China

Uighur man playing a traditional Turkish insturment, Kopuz.

 
Uighur girl from China
 
 
Uighur man from eastern Kashgar
An old Uighur man
 
Uygur Flag (Xinjiang-Eastern Turkestan flag)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Apr-2005 at 11:42
Thanks. I was wondering aobut it since in Shahnameh (the book of kings) as I remember Turan was located in the east of Iran which of course makes sense given the stories are from ancient times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Apr-2005 at 10:17
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Turk ler Anadolu'da diger milletler ile karismamisdir. bunu da nereden cikardin
The land that my horse has rode on, there shall not be a grass again

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Apr-2005 at 11:26

Originally posted by basbug_attila basbug_attila wrote:

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Turk ler Anadolu'da diger milletler ile karismamisdir. bunu da nereden cikardin

He didnt say that. He said Turks have mixed with the locals of Turan, the ancient region which occupied todaysTajikistan, Kyrgizistan, Uzbekistan etc.

And if you are an Anatolian Turk, go and visit Turkestan countries, and then look at the mirror. You will understand what I mean.

Also, as I read from your signiture, you wrote "Atilla the Hun". But his real name is "Attila the Hun".



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