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    Posted: 02-May-2009 at 11:08
dont debate with thaat guy. he never listens to logic.
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Star Trek would win because they have over three million worlds, they beat all their enemies, the phasers and disputors, quantum and photon torpedos, replicators, their tech is constantly evolving, they are tolerant, the ships are powerful enough to crack open a planet (That was in TOS imagine how much more powerful they are now) their ships are faster. They have Q, and the Eldar would join the feds or at least the Exos would so they get wraithlords and all that good (The Eldar aren't made out of paper mache, armor, phcychic powers, vehicles, wraithlords and wriathguard), the Soul Drinkers would join, the imperial ships suck their guns are basically artillery pieces with giant bullets that work like cannons from the days of wooden ships, and Trek has Brikars.   



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maybe but my point still stands how would the dominion fair in the stated battle against the imperium.
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oh right you meen the ocation when they vaperis people who whaer less armout than an ork. and cant hit the broad side of a barn door.  nothing to an armoured space marine who can suvie hits from guess flayers which are better at that sort of things.

any way what about the question what about the battle i thing the jem hadar would be slourted before they got in range.
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Watch the show manoSmile  besides they use them for defense, and imagine what that would do to space marine armorEvil%20Smile 


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that wasnt the question i was asking about how do you think the imperum would fair in the space battle against the domion at the battle mentioned above.  i think the impreum would win wit one retrabution class battle ships 2 1 overlord battle cruser, 1 tryrant class in a squadren with a gotic class, one squadren of 2 lunar class crusers and a amagedon class battle cruser, a squadren of 3 duntless light crusers suported by a sqadren fo 4 firestorm frigates, 8 swords (in two squadrens of 4) and 12 cobra class destroyers (again in squadrens of 4)

and please tell me where you found out that phasers strip atoms away that sounds quite nasty and un-kind for the federation who are gaint space commys/hippies who ague morality of weapons like that
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Those jem'hadar dudes are vicious and they've got their own claoking devices and the shapeshifter's could give the imperium LOT'S trouble suppose one of them snuck in to the palace as Custodian and destroyed the throne.  Adn the fed's would be around all they have to do is figure out the power armor and presto besides pahser's strip away atom's once they get the sheild's down the imperial troop's areCensored    


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they dont there worrier monks, (well as close as you get to them) i dont realy know

any way we digress

right lets see how do you think the impreum would have delt with the domion (no other enemies to worry about) say in the battle seen in oh i dont know the one in the sacrifice of angels season 6 ds9.


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Can you tell me why the space marines don't marry?


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They had grey knight terminator's not that it did them any goodEvil%20Smile 


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my favorate carater who the rules are no longer avalable for (am making an apoclibls data sheet for him though) is captain invictus of the ultarmarins first company. he died at the battle of macragge.  The inqueistor ovolsy had only just been risn from the ranks of the acolites then you do not charge wrath lords unless.  A you have spacmarin asslut terminatos to back you up with thunder hammers or b you have some realy intrestion kit to stop you from being killed.

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Who is your favorite character? I like Loken.Clap "All who stray from the emporer's light shall be shot" that's what an inquistion unit told my army of wraithlord's, poor inquisiton unitEvil%20Smile attacking my Wraithlord's was a bad ideaEvil%20SmileBig%20smile Mon keigh's make excellent pet'sSmile (with the exception of ultramarines they always' make such a mess of the carpet) my new pet is the leader if the aforementioned inquisition unit, those sister's of battle sure are cuteWink for a mon-keigh that isSmile   


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hmm.. first xenos scum my favorote race are of course the good men and women of the imperium all who stray from the empores light will be shot,  if the emporer fell bad things would happern for about 1000+ years starting with the loss of tera when the breached webway gate in the empores thone room is reopened (what you didnt think all that phychic power was being used to keep the astanomicun going), it would be a second age of strife, a few pockets would remain ultramar for instace which only imports luxarly goods and which has a very large force defending it.  Tzench will die, then one of three things will happen 1 the emporer will be reborn, 2 he will become the 5th chaos god the god of order, and 3 he just dies (far to boring)

i am curently reeding the hourus herasy and am waiting for mecheanchum the next installment.  i dont like the edar or tau i find eldar to flimsay and have the constiutance of paper massay whilst tau are space commies of the worst order and are creations of something bad posible the deciver crons 2.0 and GW have to contiualy chance fluff to make shour they dont die theyve chaned taus first contact with the nids at least once already.

i persolny play ultramarins and impreal gaurd and am planing on a therid army soon posible orks or thousand sons.  i also have an impreal navy force in BFG
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Which is your favorite race? mine is the EldarSmile do you htink that humans' would survive if the emporer fell? also have you read the Horus heresy?Smile 


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ok i will conseed that point but. I realy dought theres a eldar human highbird runing areound who is a space marine.  If the thone does stop working all humans are f***ed it doesnt matter if your in the federation or not its going to be a second age of strife untill the emporer is reborn and reunites humaity there will still be pockets of it left such as ultramar which is the most stable and self serficent region in the impreuim.

I have no problem with si-fi righters deifing the laws of physics,  i enjoy that part
what i hate is utupiun socities when quite frankly its not going to happen.

hows the federation depited in the next generation even going to survive in the 41st meileium where there are evils like the crons, eldar orks (phasers are naf and dont have the fire rate to kill enough of them), tua (evil commie necron creations), dark eldar, and the curbtion of chaos. even if they can beet the imperium which they cant when impreal escort ships are better that your shiney newest most advanced poteccaly most powerful ship. which there are less than 10 of (both sovrin and galexy class) when there are millions of escorts which are faster more manovarable at sub light speed and are just better. and i will point out again that the federation intelegece and section 31 are so laughable in comparison to there impreal counter parts the inquisiton (which is a cooler name in it self) and the offo assaium (think thats right) which would make it so the impreum does not need to fight.  There are also meny things in sol which are very very scary lets just say stay away from titan and stay away from mars and for that matter tera but that just has a wall of fortrases not nealy as scery as the other 2
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The Eldar couldn't interbreed with the vulcans (its a miracile you get any fertile Klingon/Human hybrid's ect. defying all natural laws.
 
Actually there was a half eldar space marine librarian in the fourth edition. And thats' what sci fi's all about defying natural law's. And the fed's would win because they are going on strong, whereas the empire's about to fall, in the new fifth edition the golden throne is cracking. That's not to say I don't like 40k, I just don't like the imperium. It's so cool to be able to field two story battle tank's alongside demon's that are basically massive ten foot tall red skinned body builder's with horn's and anger managment issue's.   


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oh and as for the cursed founding chapters such as the leagon of the damed they are still loyal they just cant go any where near the inquisition for fear of being expunged
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you do resise that all of federation territory is impreal territory holy tera is eath 39000 years down the road
the dragons properly on mars just asleep/ stasis
the eldar couldent interbreed with the vulcans (its a mirical you get any fertiel kilinog/human hibridis ext. defiing all natral laws mules arnt fertile and that a cross between hourse and donkey to relitively close specis from the same planit.

the tau are an intreasting one they would not join the fed they will "surgest" that they join the tau empire insteed (with a pulse rifal aimed at the feds heads and there ships are papermatay, fire worrier is considered very low in terms of cannon.  look up the rules for battle fleet gothic here: http://www.specialist-games.com/battlefleetgothic/Default.asp
to get a better comparison of ships weapons in the 41st millinum, waring this may not fit descriptions in books for several resons just use it to compare 40k ships to 40k ships

the impreums tech may not be evolving fast buts its a dam site more reliable vox-casters (depending which would it is from) are valve operated so lower tech yes heavier yes, but more durable and can work in high ECM conditions and will carire on working if an emp goes off and if they have an auto pistol that's a gun that works oh not forget the bayonets

your fogeting the impreuim more prasisly the adeptus machicus is looking for the complete SCT (mother of all replicators you whant it it will make it)

most of the population actually geulay believe the emporers is a god and the machein spirit is real its what makes things work. the impreals tech is highly advanced in most fields it does have things like data slates and computers it also has more backwards things as well like valve oporated radios (vox-casters) the machien spirit is the softwhere or in some cases is actuly an AI like in the case of a landrader.  if you apese the macine spirit of your gun it wont jam.

most ordany people don't know about the inquisition, guard regiments are rutinly exicutied after an engament with choas to stop the very real risk of coruption. there are exeptions major campains for instance.

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Why wouldn't the cursed founding chapter's join? and I think the eldar would join or at lest allie themselves with the vulcans to preserve their race and thus the fed's inheirit the eldar's phycic power's and technology not many spcae marines can withstand a wraithlord and who knows' the tau might join or become allies, and in star trek technology is constantly evolving and the Q's would take a hand if the 40k gods moved in their turf, I'd like to see the emporer fight one of those and you do realize that most people worship (pay lip service) to the machine spirit, the emporer, etc. to keep the inquisition of their back's. And while 40k is fighting the fed's, the ork's, cron's, etc. will attack imperial territory,(the damocles crusade all over again) and who say's the fight has to be against the imperium?. I think it would be quite interesting to read about the first female space marine.


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