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    Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 17:22
Inca, Maya and Aztec Civilizations... I can kind of picture what they are... but are there distinct difference between them, other than where they conquered? Are they like Canada and US, or are they plain different?
     
   
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As different as China, Rome and Greece.

Inca is a Peruvian civilization, part of the long family of civilizations that start from Caral, and that ends on Inca, and that have Chavin, Moche, Tiahuanaco and many others cultures as the predecesors. Inca was the largest state in the Americas of the pre-contact age.
 
Maya is Mesoamerican (Mexico + Central America), and its predecesors are the Olmecs. Mayans are the classical culture of Mesoamerica that gave origin to many others. Aztecs were the last Mesoamerican culture and the more powerful empire of that region. Aztecs and Mayas were different people that spoke different language, although they shared some cultural elements.
 
 


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Aztecs  empire was a ferderation, based on the alliance between aztecs city and other two citiesbut the aztecs was the most powerful one,so the federation followed her name, but Inca was a relatively centralized country.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

As different as China, Rome and Greece.


Inca is a Peruvian civilization, part of the long family of civilizations that start from Caral, and that ends on Inca, and that have Chavin, Moche, Tiahuanaco and many others cultures as the predecesors. Inca was the largest state in the Americas of the pre-contact age.

 

Maya is Mesoamerican (Mexico + Central America), and its predecesors are the Olmecs. Mayans are the classical culture of Mesoamerica that gave origin to many others. Aztecs were the last Mesoamerican culture and the more powerful empire of that region. Aztecs and Mayas were different people that spoke different language, although they shared some cultural elements.

 

 


You got that right. Incas are peruvian. and Peruvians also invented Pisco.
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Which were their military characteristics? Was there any similarity btw their armies? I know a little bit about the Aztecs but almost nothing about the others.
 
The sure thing is that they didn't use horses... Why was that?
Were the horses transfered to the region after the contact?

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Because before 1492, there was no horse in America. I think Inca army conquered lots of the neighnours, they were foot soldiers, with stone or bone made weapons,

Both three cultures used stone or bone made weapon, but the army had different kind of position, there were generals, captains,

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Originally posted by Ponce de Leon Ponce de Leon wrote:

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You got that right. Incas are peruvian. and Peruvians also invented Pisco.
 
Just remember that Chile is a former province of Peru LOL. And Pisco was invented during the Viceroyalty Big%20smile 
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Originally posted by Athanasios Athanasios wrote:

Which were their military characteristics? Was there any similarity btw their armies? I know a little bit about the Aztecs but almost nothing about the others.
 
The sure thing is that they didn't use horses... Why was that?
Were the horses transfered to the region after the contact?
 
There were many weapons in precontact Americas. Incas had stone and bronze weapons. Incas were not in the stone age but in the bronze.
 
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Aztecs used obsidiane. Besides throwing darts, cerbatanas (bowing pipes),  bows and arrows and slings. Natives of the Amazons had curare, a poison that kills at contact with which they poisoned theirs darts. And the natives of Patagonia have bolas, a quite dangerous weapon if well used.
 
The horse is post contact. Only a decade after the arrival of the Spaniards, Natives were using horses to attack them.
 
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Originally posted by Ponce de Leon Ponce de Leon wrote:

...You got that right. Incas are peruvian. and Peruvians also invented Pisco.

 

Just remember that Chile is a former province of Peru LOL. And Pisco was invented during the Viceroyalty Big%20smile 


But what was the viceroyalty called? hmm? Pisco is 100% Peruvian!
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I won't continue with the topic of Pisco. Nobody else would understand this dispute Big%20smile.

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hey i am glad we both come to the agreement about the pisco issue. Now to convince those "monos" to the north!
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Pisco is just a variety of brandy, isn't? Actually, pisco is the name of the pottery jars which come from pre-contact times.
If you preffer we could argue who is the owner of "chicha" Wink. We say it is the most typical chilean drink Big%20smile
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Anyone actually tried Pisco? LOL
     
   
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I have. Only Chilean Pisco though LOL.
 
Actually, Pisco is a brandy developed in Colonial times in the Viceroyalty of Peru. People usually forgets that Chile was part of Peru at those times. And Pisco is the brandy developed in Peru and Northern Chile.
 
Since long time ago there has been a dispute between Peru and Chile about the ownership of the name "Pisco". Actually, I don't care much, because we could change Chilean Pisco to another name, like "Elqui" for example, and the product would be the same.
 
Chilean and Peruvian piscos are not the same liquor because they are prepared following different recipees. Chilean pisco is made of moscatel grapes and is produced in the Elqui valley. Is so strong that is diluted in water. Peruvian liquor is made following other formula.
 
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So about the Mayas, Incas and Aztecs... I do not have much of chronology in my head here... Were the Incas and the Mayas at the same time and the Aztecs later? Or am I blabbing here?
 
If they were at the same time, would might there have been contact? And who lived in the lands inbetween?
 
And is it true they had so much gold they considered it of low value? Or is that a myth? Big%20smile

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Both the Incas and the Aztecs appeared in the 14th century, and were in full expansion by the beginning of the 16th when they were conquered by the Spanish. Both of them started out as "barbarians" who took over areas of civilization with a history that stretched back over several thousands of years (about 4000 for Mexcico and 5000 for Peru). The Mayas started to develop in the 4th century AD, reached their peak in the 7th to 10th and were in a period of decadence by the time of the Spanish conquest, although the last Mayan city held out until 1697.
 
To my knowledge, there was no contact between Mexican and Peruvian civilizations. As for gold, though abundant, it was still considered of fairly high value, but there were other materials such as jade and quetzal feathers which were even more prized.


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Yes, you are right. Incas were contemporary to the Aztecs, and Classical Mayas to Moche and other Peruvian cultures.
There was a very small degree of commerce between Mesoamerican and the Peruvian region. That's show by the presence of central american sea shells that were used in Inca ceremonies. The commerce (which was small) was done mainly by large balsa rafts that followed the Pacific sea coast from Colombia to Central America.


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Is the reason of this thread the movie "Apocalypto"?Wink By the way, did you see it? On the cover of the VCD the local society is said to be the Mayas and it's filmed in Mayan language. However, had the Mayans been living in cities when the Spanish arrived (Decebal you said that they held until 1697 but did that last city still had the Mayan features as they were at their height?)? AFAIK they left their cities for some reason; is it correct? 
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The 'classic' cities in the Central Mayan area (Tikal, Palenque, Calakmul) were abandoned in the 7th century, probably because of climatic change in combination with malmanagement. The heavy point of Mayan civilization switched to the edges of the Mayan area, both to the north of Yucatán and the highlands of Guatemala.

The cities in the north were probably under the influence of the Toltecs. Initially Chichén Itzá was the most important center. The (Maya-Toltec) dynasty of Chichén Itza was overthrown in the 13th century, after which a league of cities led by Mayapan became the main power in the northern Maya area. By the time the Spanish arrived however Yucatán had again fallen apart into numerous warring city states.
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They were also founded off of much different agricultural systems. Basically there were two neolithic revolutions in the America's: Central America and Peru. While central america's staple was corn the Andean regions subsided off of potatoes. Corn was generally only available to the elite in Andean societies.
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