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    Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 22:35
T H E  OTTOMAN'S  G R E A T E S T  A C H I E V E M E N T

As a city founded by the Ottomans, Mostar has a wealth of unique landmarks and architectural ensembles dating back to the Empire's reign over this part of the world - more than Sarajevo, more than Ohrid, more than anywhere else in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Here are some photographs depicting Mostar, it's landmarks, and its surroundings...






























































































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Mila, do you know some other fortresses/castles made by the turks in Bih?

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Originally posted by The Chargemaster The Chargemaster wrote:

Mila, do you know some other fortresses/castles made by the turks in Bih?


Oh yes, Charge. There are dozens, probably hundreds. Most of the fortresses and castles you see in Bosnia you're looking at the Ottoman manifestation of them. A vast majority of these castles existed long before the Ottomans but were changed, built up, etc. Now this varies in influence. Most of the castles in central Bosniak - Srebrenik, etc...are practically as they were in Roman times. Others, like Kotorac and Buzim, look like something brought in from Izmir.

The only ones which aren't really Ottoman in nature are the ones that were destroyed before or during the Ottoman conquest (Imunisipia, Bola, Soli, etc.) and those additionally changed during the Austro-Hungarian era. The castle near Cazin, for example, is very Austro-Hungarian even though it was used for hundreds of years by the Ottomans.

Now, monasteries can in many way count as castles and there are many Roman Catholic monasteries that pre-date the Ottomans and a few Orthodox ones built during the Ottoman Empire, mainly in its early years. The Roman Catholic ones have absolutely no Ottoman influence and with the exception of things the Ottomans borrowed from the Byzantines, neither do the Orthodox ones.
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One of the most famous Ottoman-era fortresses in Bosnia and Herzegovina is Buzim, Charge. It's famous mainly because the population there is still very traditional and still very linked with Turkey - some even have Turkish family names.

These pictures are from a folk festival but it's still common to see women, even young women, wear traditional dress in Buzim. It's also a very poor area, very insular. They don't interact much with the rest of Bosnia and Herzegovina. A lot of the Arab mujahedeen who married local women and settled in Bosnia ended up here.


It's easy to tell which women usually dress and behave in a traditional manner and which don't, that you can do. But there is a way to tell which women are traditional to an extreme level - which is neither good or bad, but just VERY traditional - and that is as in the photo above, no make-up. Most women who aren't traditional will wear a obscene amount of make-up with their folk costumes as women did in old times. We're talking red circles for cheeks, VERY much make-up. Those who are traditional enough to not wear make-up still don't even in folk costume. And that, by our standards is VERY traditional. Foriegn even. Traditional of someone else's traditions.



A few views of the town and it's castle:






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Mostar, Orthodox minster church built 1863-1873.Mostar, metropolitan house built 19 century.



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this country has rebuilt itself so quickly since the war

beautiful city, but im sure that the ottomans had greater achievements.

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Originally posted by prsn41ife prsn41ife wrote:

this country has rebuilt itself so quickly since the war

beautiful city, but im sure that the ottomans had greater achievements.



Well it's deceiving. Sort of like 1960s Berlin - go two blocks off any main street and it's still in ruins.

And no, the Ottomans did not have any greater achievements - blasphemy.
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Originally posted by Mila Mila wrote:

And that, by our standards is VERY traditional. Foriegn even. Traditional of someone else's traditions.

Yes, Mila.  I think - your opinion is the right opinion!

And here i found a map of Buzim district: http://www.bbs.bund.de/buzim/anlzus.htm

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