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calvo 
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 Topic: The most advanced Steppe CivilizationPosted: 15-Jul-2008 at 19:23 |
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Prior to the Mongol conquest, numerous empires had risen and fallen on the Eurasian steppes. Most of these nomad nations led similar lifestyles, but were different in other ways. Which one from the list do you think was the most advanced of all the steppe civilizations?
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Evrenosgazi
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Posted: 15-Jul-2008 at 21:19 |
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Uighurs were the literate people of the steppes. We know that even the mongols used them in state offices.
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calvo
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Posted: 17-Jul-2008 at 18:34 |
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There are a number of votes that said "others", which ones? and why? The Uighurs indeed have a reputation of having developed a rather advanced, sedentary culture. Weren't the Volga Bulgars and the Khazars also sedentary? |
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eaglecap
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Posted: 17-Jul-2008 at 19:44 |
Yes that it true and, in fact, the Khazars not only became Jewish but provided refuge for Jews fleeing persecution. I am sure that impacted the khazars and their culture. In order to read the Torah and other Jewish Holy books I am sure they became literate fast. The Bulgars we all know became Orthodox Christians and they became literate under the influences of the Byzantines. |
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Bor Chono
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Posted: 19-Jul-2008 at 08:47 |
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Who has best/bigger GERs(=yurt)?
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Bor Chono
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Posted: 19-Jul-2008 at 08:54 |
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Who has many scripts as Mongols!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_writing_systems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phagspa_script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyombo_script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Latin_script  |
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Aussiedude
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Posted: 07-Sep-2008 at 13:07 |
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The Khazars. In the Khazar's golden era, even the Sassanid Persians couldn't defeat them in the field, and had to rely on their fortresses.
Besides that, they were involved heavily in trade, very literate, Jewish, and fairly modern.
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EmperorTrebizond
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Posted: 14-Sep-2008 at 10:52 |
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The Khazar Khaganate was the dam against the Caliphate in the northeast (through the Caucasus). Largely Jewish, mighty, tolerant and prosperous, they lasted until the Rus sailed down and destroyed them.
Actually the medieval European fear of the invasion of the "Red Jews" at the apocalypse originates with fear of the Khazars. Edited by EmperorTrebizond - 14-Sep-2008 at 10:53 |
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May the Empire of Constantine rise again...
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capcartoonist
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Posted: 14-Sep-2008 at 11:17 |
Yep. I cast my vote for the Uighurs for that very reason.
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man2rk
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Posted: 06-Feb-2009 at 16:18 |
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It's for sure that Uighurs are the most civilized for those above mentioned and unmentioned reasons.
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Afsar Beghi
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Posted: 28-Feb-2009 at 22:11 |
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Definitely the Uygurs.
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Snafu
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Posted: 15-Mar-2009 at 01:41 |
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Yeah I vote for the Uighurs too. They were already becoming highly civilized when they were still living in Mongolia.
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ALLAN
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Posted: 15-Mar-2009 at 17:57 |
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What influence did the Alans have and why all the secrecy?
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