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The Americans don't really buy equipment, they already have too much. Tongue

In Afghanistan they destroy weapon caches not to stop the enemy from having them, but to stop their allies getting them.
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ANZAC class frigates...
 
FFH-150 HMAS Anzac:
 
FFH-150 HMAS Anzac:
 
FFH-150 HMAS Anzac:
 
FFH-151 HMAS Arunta:
 
FFH-153 HMAS Stuart:
 
FFH-153 HMAS Stuart:


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Huon class mine hunter

The Huon design is based on the Italian Gaeta/Lerici Class, derivatives of which are in service with five other navies including the United States Navy. However the RAN Huon Class has been modified to suit Australian conditions, including improved accommodation and mine hunting capabilities. Six minehunters have been built by ADI in Newcastle, Australia and operate from the HMAS Waterhen naval base in Sydney.



Huon class minehunters are built with a fibre reinforced plastic hull, moulded in a single monocoque skin with no ribs or framework; providing increased shock resistance and a low magnetic signature when compared to conventional metal-hulled vessels.

Armament:
One 30 mm DS30B rapid fire cannon.
Two .50 calibre machine guns.
Various Small Arms
 
Minehunting:
Thales Underwater Systems 2093 variable depth sonar
Two Bofors Double Eagle remotely operated vehicles
DAMDIC Mine disposal charges
 
Minesweeping:
OROPESA Double "O" mechanical sweep capable of towing the ADI Mini Dyad influence sweep
Also capable of towing Influence Rig ‘B’
 
Systems:
Combat Data System: BAE Systems NAUTIS - II(M) Link 11 
ESM: BAE Systems PRISM III 

ECM: Superbarricade 
Electro-optic Sensor System: Radamec 
Navigation Radar: Kelvin Hughes Navigation 1007

List of ships:
HMAS Huon (M 82) -  Deactivated
HMAS Hawkesbury (M 83)
HMAS Norman (M 84)
HMAS Gascoyne (M 85)
HMAS Diamantina (M 86)
HMAS Yarra (M 87)
one more will be deactivated

Double Eagle Mk2
 

Double Eagle Mk2 Technical data

Weight in air: Approx. 360 kg
Weight in water: Adjustable, normally slightly buoyansy
Length: 2.2 m
Width: 1.3 m
Height: 0.5 m
Operational depth: 300 m (optional 500 m)
Speed: >6 knots forward, 0,7 knot lateral, 0.4 knot vertical,6 knot ascent/descent
Camera: External tiltable colour CCD camera.

The Double eagle's are electrically powered and are equipped with a search light, closed-circuit low light television camera, and onboard detection and identification sonar. The vehicle's tether cable contains a fibre-optic link for transmitting command signals from the ship and relaying sensor images for display on the multi-function consoles in the ship's operations room. A DAMDIC mine disposal charge from Nordic Defence Systems is slung beneath the vehicle for release in close proximity to the mine. The mine disposal charge is detonated via a thin wire link running from the ship. The vehicle can be deployed at distances of more than 500m from the ship. Clearance divers are carried on board the disposal vehicles and are capable of diving to 90m. The ships are being fitted with the new remotely activated Cormorant Lift Bag which brings mines to the surface for disposal.

Type 2093 sonar in dual searching and classification mode.


Australian Minesweeping System (AMAS)
AMAS is a systems approach to minesweeping, comprising a magnetic, acoustic, and electric multi influence sweep; a sweep tracker monitor system; mission planning support system software; an ECDIS based minesweeping navigation and control system; a remote controlled minesweeping system and a range of integrated logistic support products and services including a shorting band kit and deployment containers.



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http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/msd/sea1555/sea1555.cfm#technical
http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/mhc.html
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/huon/
http://www.baesystems.com.au/site/page.cfm?u=331
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/ProductsServices/products_az.htm
http://products.saabgroup.com/PDBWebNew/GetFile.aspx?PathType=ProductFiles&FileType=Files&Id=4649
http://www.adi-limited.com/default.asp?page=164


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The SeaSprite (Australian navy helicopter).
 
 
 


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^ there is a reasonable chance we'll can that, the penguin is great though
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Thread revised to include other branches of the Aussie military.
 
Some potential discussion material...
 
F-18, but which variant?:
 
ARH Tiger, any good?:
 
Aussie Abrams, do they build them also?:


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ooh good re-defination and broadening of scope. I know the Aussie military better than any other.

The Tiger are very good, one of our more successful programs, our ones can fire hellfire II  missiles.

The Abrams tanks are second hand US tanks that have been reseted to 0 hours use. They're not the latest versions though, and i was a little upset we bought them in the first place to replace the Leopard 1's.

The F18 is the older A model, but are being upgraded under  pretty extensive program to keep them flying past 2010.
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Ah yes a merger sounds good. The Australian army is truly the best in the world!
We may only have around a total of 70,000 soldiers with 20,000 reserves but they could still whoop anyone.
(note: those figures aren't exact but roughly around that)
 
I may not have any picks but there are some good YouTube vids:
 
 
Theres just 2 that i had saved in my favorites. I'll try and find some good pictures.
 
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Great videos Balaam. I would say that the Australian Army are among the most elite in the world (man for man), but I don't know how we would fair in a bilateral war with China or America...

Our special forces our definitely one of the best in the world, rivaling the British SAS.

Australian SAS:
^ Might recognise this one from somewhere. Wink
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Knights Knights wrote:

Australian SAS:
^ Might recognise this one from somewhere. Wink 
 
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Originally posted by Leonidas Leonidas wrote:

'who dares wins' yes i did Tongue 

Yes, that too Smile I was thinking of my avatar...but either way! Big%20smile


SASR firing a Javelin


Afghanistan: Aussie SAS with a MK19 AGL

F88-Austeyr.
Adopted by a lot of Australia's defence force, including the SF.
A bullpup style weapon where the magazine is behind the trigger.
Its barrel is 25% shorter than non-bullpup rifles, but this doesn't comprise its ballistic performance.
 

737 Wedgetail AEW&C


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Bushmaster
 
 
"The Bushmaster 4x4 armoured vehicle is currently deployed in southern Iraq with the Australian Army's Al Muthanna Task Group. The Bushmaster armoured vehicle, developed by Thales Australia (formerly ADI Limited) in Australia is in full production at Thales's engineering and manufacturing facility at Bendigo, Victoria."
 
 
"The Australian Army has tested the vehicle over thousands of kilometres in the extreme climatic conditions and terrain from sub-zero mountain areas to desert and tropical conditions."
 
 
 
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Nice post, Knights.
 
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I thought i'd better posts about our most recent weapons commitments. 24 F-18E/F Super Hornets.



There is currently a great debate about our airforce fighter program. i tend to side with the critics who basically support a raptor based two tiered fleet over a single fighter JSF based fleet.

Now that the risks in the JSF program are being realized , the government have just bought Super F18's as a 'bridging' fighter to minimalise the risk they brought on in the first place! Now we have a two fighter fleet coming our way from the very people that have been using the one fighter logic to argue the F-35II commitment.Confused

So now we have just committed in buying  24 Super Hornets block2 for around 6 billion Aus dollars. Many here asked why not an advanced f-15 ordered by Singapore or Korea? Dont get me wrong the super hormet is a great multirole fighter along the lines of the F-35,. Also  like the F-35 it would get smashed by a well flown SU-30, which is what our neighbors will be or are already flying. Both fighters are good at network centric close air support, not air dominance.


anway...


Weapons loads for the F18E


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Differences between the 'super' and 'classic' hornet



Quote Features of the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet:
90% Common F/A-18C/D Avionics: Avionics and software have a 90 percent commonality with current F/A-18C/Ds. However, the F/A-18E/F cockpit features a touch-sensitive, upfront control display; a larger, liquid crystal multipurpose color display; and a new engine fuel display.
34 in. Fuselage Extension: The fuselage is slightly longer - the result of a 34-inch extension.
Two Additional Multi-Mission Weapons Stations: Super Hornet has two additional weapons stations, bringing the total to 11. For aircraft carrier operations, about three times more payload can be brought back to the ship.
25% Larger Wing: A full 25 percent bigger than its predecessor, Super Hornet has nearly half as many parts.
35% Higher Thrust Engines: Increased engine power comes from the F414-GE-400, an advanced derivative of the Hornet's current F404 engine family. The F414 produces 35 percent more thrust and improves overall mission performance. Enlarged air inlets provide increased airflow to the engines.
33% Additional Internal Fuel: Structural changes to the airframe increase internal fuel capacity by 3,600 pounds, or about 33 percent. This extends the Hornet's mission radius by up to 40 percent. 1

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what did we order?
Quote The Defense Security Cooperation Agency statement said that, in addition to the 24 F-18Es, Australia has requested 48 installed and 6 spare engines as well as the following equipment and weapons:  
 
- 24 AN/APG-79 radar systems  
- 24 AN/USQ-140 Multifunctional Informational Distribution System Low Volume Terminals  
- 30 AN/ALR-67(V)3 Electric Warfare Countermeasures Receiving Sets  
- 145 LAU-127 Guided Missile Launchers  
- 30 AN/PVS-9 night vision goggles  
- Integration of the AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems  
- 12 Joint Mission Planning Systems  
- AN/ALE-55 Fiber Optic Towed Decoys.  
   
“Also included are system integration and testing, software development/integration, test sets and support equipment, spare and repair parts, maintenance and pilot training, software support, publications and technical documents," the DSCA statement said. 2


also it must be noted we are getting the F-18F two seaters.

one more pictureBig%20smile

http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow05/oceana/oceana.htm


  Globalsecurity
2   defense-aerospace.com
3   FAS
4   airforce-technology



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F-111C/G "Pig"

One of our highly cherished platforms due to be retired in 2010.
Irreplaceable in terms of range, firepower and speed. Unhappy


The design

Quote The F-111's variable-sweep wing provides aerodynamic efficiency from the slowest to the fastest operating speeds. The F-111's variable-sweep wings allowed the pilot to fly from slow approach speeds to supersonic velocity at sea level and more than twice the speed of sound at higher altitudes. With wings fully extended, the F-111 can take off and land in as little as 2,000 feet. With wings fully swept back, it can reach supersonic speeds at high or low altitudes. The F-111 could operate from tree-top level to altitudes above 60,000 feet (18,200 meters). Wings angle from 16 degrees (full forward) to 72.5 degrees (full aft). Full-forward wings gave the most surface area and maximum lift for short takeoff and landing. The F-111 needed no drag chute or reserve thrust to slow down after landing.

The two crew members sat side-by-side in an air-conditioned, pressurized cockpit module that served as an emergency escape vehicle and as a survival shelter on land or water. In emergencies, both crew members remained in the cockpit and an explosive cutting cord separated the cockpit module from the aircraft. The module descended by parachute. The ejected module included a small portion of the wing fairing to stabilize it during aircraft separation. Airbags cushioned impact and help keep the module afloat in water. The module could be released at any speed or altitude, even under water. For underwater escape, the airbags raised the module to the surface after it has been severed from the plane.

The aircraft's wings and much of the fuselage behind the crew module contained fuel tanks. Using internal fuel only, the plane had a range of more than 2,500 nautical miles (4,000 kilometers). External fuel tanks could be carried on the pylons under the wings and jettisoned if necessary.

The F-111's automatic terrain-following radar system flew the craft at a constant altitude following the Earth's contours. It allowed the aircraft to fly in valleys and over mountains, day or night, regardless of weather conditions. Should any of the system's circuits fail, the aircraft automatically initiated a climb

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PERFORMANCE:

Max Level Speed

at altitude: 1,650 mph (2,655 km/h) at 36,090 ft (11,000 m), Mach 2.5
at sea level: 915 mph (1,475 km/h), Mach 1.2

Initial Climb Rate

(EF-111) 3,592 ft (1,094 m) / min

Service Ceiling

54,700 ft (16,670 m)

Range

2,545 nm (4,707 km) with max internal fuel

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F-111 dropping high drag Iron Bombs



Quote Air Force operates three versions of the F-111:
  • the F-111C strike fighter
  • the unique RF-111C, modified for photo-reconnaissance work
  • ex-US Air Force F-111G's, which help ensure Australia maintains its strike capability until the F-111 is retired around 2010–15.
The two squadrons have slightly different roles:
  • No 1 Squadron flies strike and reconnaissance missions using F-111C's and RF-111C's
  • No 6 Squadron trains aircrews on F-111C's and conducts air and sea strikes using F-111G's.
1The F-111C was a Aussie version that combines FB-111A and F-111A components.

Quote The F-111C's are flown by the Royal Australian Air Force. The F-111C aircraft are similar to the F-111A except that they have the longer wing of the B version, stronger landing gear and a higher gross weight. The righthand control stick is also removeable from the aircraft depending on crew duties. The F-111C probably went through the longest negotiations of any modern aircraft. Ordered by the Australian government in 1966, their two squadrons did not become operational until 1975.
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Components: http://www.f-111.net/t_no_C_files/dia-c.jpg
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The F-111G
Quote In October 1992 the Minister for Defence announced the proposed acquisition of up to 18 surplus US Air Force F-111s to extend the type's service life. Ultimately 15 F-111G models were selected as the most suitable for introduction to RAAF service. The F-111G does share commonality with the F-111C, with the longer wings and heavier undercarriage. The G also shares some of the avionics fit that was fitted during the F-111C AUP, notably the same terrain-following radar, attack radar and multi-function displays for the aircrew. However, other aspects of the F-111C are different. The avionics will not be fully compatible with the AUP, and also the G is powered by Pratt & Whitney P-107 turbofans. These cannot be standardised with the F-111C's P-103s due to the different intake and fuselage shape. The extent of these differences is not considered to be insurmountable.
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Armaments used by the RAAF.

notice we also have Popeyes Evil%20Smile

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a Popeye on a F-111


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2   www.f-111.net
3   globalsecurity
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5   www.raaf.gov.au/raafmuseum/
6   www.xfig.org


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some more F-111 pictures taken at the latest 'Red flag' exercise in the US, Feb 2007





http://www.raaf.gov.au/exercises/redflag07/
 
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Australian SASR in Iraq







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when were those pictures taken? im thinking around the invasion or there after...
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I can't get an exact date, but I would imagine it was around the time of the invasion, or shortly thereafter.

Tiger Chopper firing Hellfire, during training exercise in Woomera.






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This is a commonly associated vehicle with the SASR - the Landrover Perentie. I'd imagine that it is named after the huge goanna native to Australia, the Perentie...




Crew: 3

Radius of Action: 1300 km unsealed roads

Max Speed: 95 kph

Length: 6.020m

Height: 2.050m

Engine: ISUZU 4BD1T Turbo charged 3.9



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The Long Range Patrol Vehicle was introduced into service with the Australian Army in November 1991. This vehicle is used to carry out medium and long range reconnaissance over continental Australia by the Special Air Service Regiment (SASR). This vehicle has an integrated cab and body structure with stowing facilities for equipment and rations as well as a low profile canopy over the crew area. The cab has two seats, no door and a removable windscreen. Mounting are provided for two machine guns (MAG 58 and MINIMI) and a 250 cc motorcycle which can be carried across the rear of the body.

Army has 27 of these vehicle, most of which are located in Perth with the SASR. The vehicle is part of the range of six wheel drive Landrover variants operated by the Australian Army, the other being a 4 litter ambulance, a general maintenance (workshop) vehicle, an electronic repair vehicle, air defence variant and general cargo vehicle. The Long Range Patrol Vehicle is easily loaded and transported in the C130 Hercules aircraft, which, coupled with the inherent high mobility of the vehicle itself, provides the ADF with an excellent strategic reconnaissance and long range patrol capability for Land Forces."



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