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Okay thanks BTW would they have had them around say the six thirties? and what non-metal stirrups?


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The Byzantines used stirrups in the Battle of Yarmuk, which was in 636. And what do you mean by the second part? Wooden stirrups were also used, as well as metal ones. I'm not too sure of the time of transition, sorry.

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I'm sorry Knights I meant the five thirties around the days of Comites Flavius Belisarius


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There is not any evidence (to my knowledge, anyway) of the Byzantines using stirrups at that time.  It cannot be said either way.  It seems that the dominant view among scholars is that the Avars introduced stirrups to the area in the late 6th century.
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Originally posted by Ahenobarbus Ahenobarbus wrote:

There is not any evidence (to my knowledge, anyway) of the Byzantines using stirrups at that time.  It cannot be said either way.  It seems that the dominant view among scholars is that the Avars introduced stirrups to the area in the late 6th century.


It is speculated that the stirrup originated in India as early as 500 B.C as well. Although the "stirrup" was designed to hold only the big toe.
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^ Ouch


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Originally posted by Count Belisarius Count Belisarius wrote:

^ Ouch
 
Ouch what?  Isn't it possible that the Avars were part of a chain through which the technology filtered, either from India or some other place as the origin?  You do understand that Byzantium is in a different location than India, I think.
 
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Ouch that would hurt to have your big toe in a loop 


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Why would anyone design a stirrup that would only hold your big toe but not your foot?
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Originally posted by Jallaludin Akbar Jallaludin Akbar wrote:

Why would anyone design a stirrup that would only hold your big toe but not your foot?


It was effective. Why would the foot have to be used?


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How effective was it?
 
Using the foot allows you to brace yourself and put more weight in the saddle


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Im guessing it would allow more mobility. Perhaps on a large manufacturing scale it would cost less.
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Originally posted by Jallaludin Akbar Jallaludin Akbar wrote:

Why would anyone design a stirrup that would only hold your big toe but not your foot?


How would you design a modern stirrup out of nowhere if you had no example nor knowledge of what that is. It usually takes evolution for something to become a finalized product. Plus if it was effective and practical there is no reason not to use it.

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Originally posted by Darius of Parsa Darius of Parsa wrote:

Im guessing it would allow more mobility. Perhaps on a large manufacturing scale it would cost less.
 
LOLLOLLOL Have you ever ridden? Okay you put your toe in little loop on a big horse and the get the horse into a trot yeah it will allow so much moblility that your toes will get pulled  


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