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I know all of that, I am from Bosnia, and even there there are different dialects, Krajina is different from Northern, or Eastern Bosnia, or from Hercegovina. Same for Serbia. Just saying they are all Yugoslav languages coming from a single stem, but have varied local dialects, and a obvious blanket dialect. They are mutually intelligible.
 
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Nicola Tesla was an ethnic Serb who lived in Croatia. What are the roots for his last name, it doesnt sound typically Serbian. I always asumed he was Russian.




The origin of Tesla's last name is known and there is no debate upon it. Tesla explains it himself in his autobiography. His (paternal, from mother's it's Mandic) family's last name was Draganic, they're migrants that fled from the Ottoman Turks from the Old Vlach region in modern-day Montenegro, just below the river of Tara. Nikola's recent ancestor asserted his family name Tesla from the tool very akin to the Axe, a thing not unusual for many Serb refugees in those times. Tesla in Serbo-Croat means Adze, a rough tool for woodcutting as Nikola Tesla comes from a woodcutter's family (by not far descent). As such, "Tesla" became a sort-of regional surname, which was typical for clanmen back then - in Lika itself, in the Habsburg Military Frontier to which the Draganics moved.
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Originally posted by Illirac Illirac wrote:


Every one...the question was from where is the NAME Tesla...not from where Tesla comes from



So, after you it was a linguistic problem.


I don't know the Serbian language, Tesla too sound non-Serbian for me.

How is declined this word in Serbian?


Tesla

Tesle

Tesli

Tesle

Tesla

Teslom

Tesli

It comes from the word "Adze", which in Serbo-Croat means "Adze".
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Croatian-Serbian-Bosnian-Montenegrin have a same derivative language, with regional, and sub-regional differences. The proper is Yugoslavian as a term for all, but I would call all four rather dialects of that, but not derivative of each other.


You have made a terrible mistake. Angry

It's actually Bosnian-Bunyev-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian-Yugoslavian-Zlatibor
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Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:



Tesla
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Tesle
Tesla
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Tesli

It comes from the word "Adze", which in Serbo-Croat means "Adze".



Thanks. In Romanian tesla means the same thing.

But searching in a dictionary I have found this:


English language        Serbian language
adze                           bradva


So, it seems is not the main word used for that tool, as is in Romanian.

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Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:


Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Croatian-Serbian-Bosnian-Montenegrin have a same derivative language, with regional, and sub-regional differences. The proper is Yugoslavian as a term for all, but I would call all four rather dialects of that, but not derivative of each other.
You have made a terrible mistake. AngryIt's actually Bosnian-Bunyev-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian-Yugoslavian-Zlatibor


What's Bunyev, and Zlatibor


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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:


Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Croatian-Serbian-Bosnian-Montenegrin have a same derivative language, with regional, and sub-regional differences. The proper is Yugoslavian as a term for all, but I would call all four rather dialects of that, but not derivative of each other.
You have made a terrible mistake. AngryIt's actually Bosnian-Bunyev-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian-Yugoslavian-Zlatibor


What's Bunyev, and Zlatibor



Bunyev is the language of the Bynyevatz tiny Catholic people that populates Vojvodina, originally from Bosnia.

Zlatibor is the term used for the language spoken around the mountain of Zlatibor in western and southwestern Serbia (in Sandzak). Because no one really is a determined speaker though, it's more often referred as "Uzice Speech" (Uzice the largest city).
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Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:

Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:


Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Croatian-Serbian-Bosnian-Montenegrin have a same derivative language, with regional, and sub-regional differences. The proper is Yugoslavian as a term for all, but I would call all four rather dialects of that, but not derivative of each other.
You have made a terrible mistake. AngryIt's actually Bosnian-Bunyev-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian-Yugoslavian-Zlatibor


What's Bunyev, and Zlatibor



Bunyev is the language of the Bynyevatz tiny Catholic people that populates Vojvodina, originally from Bosnia.

Zlatibor is the term used for the language spoken around the mountain of Zlatibor in western and southwestern Serbia (in Sandzak). Because no one really is a determined speaker though, it's more often referred as "Uzice Speech" (Uzice the largest city).


This is all too confusing for me... from now on my native language is Shatrovacki.
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Never knew about those two dialects


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Oh, there is one more - I forgot: "Ours language" (natively: Nasinski jezik). It's spoken by The Hillmen (nativel: Goranci) people in Serbia (from The Hills, "Gora", at the south of Kosovo), a Moslem people of Serbian origins, although the greater part of them call it Serbian language.

There, I think I've covered all (except that no one calls it "Yugoslavian" anymore, so slash that). :)
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Originally posted by Larus Larus wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:

Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:


Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Croatian-Serbian-Bosnian-Montenegrin have a same derivative language, with regional, and sub-regional differences. The proper is Yugoslavian as a term for all, but I would call all four rather dialects of that, but not derivative of each other.
You have made a terrible mistake. AngryIt's actually Bosnian-Bunyev-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian-Yugoslavian-Zlatibor


What's Bunyev, and Zlatibor



Bunyev is the language of the Bynyevatz tiny Catholic people that populates Vojvodina, originally from Bosnia.

Zlatibor is the term used for the language spoken around the mountain of Zlatibor in western and southwestern Serbia (in Sandzak). Because no one really is a determined speaker though, it's more often referred as "Uzice Speech" (Uzice the largest city).


This is all too confusing for me... from now on my native language is Shatrovacki.


Unlike most standard Serbian in Serbia, the Zlatiborian uses Iyekavian speech.
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Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:

Oh, there is one more - I forgot: "Ours language" (natively: Nasinski jezik). It's spoken by The Hillmen (nativel: Goranci) people in Serbia (from The Hills, "Gora", at the south of Kosovo), a Moslem people of Serbian origins, although the greater part of them call it Serbian language.

There, I think I've covered all (except that no one calls it "Yugoslavian" anymore, so slash that). :)


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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:

Oh, there is one more - I forgot: "Ours language" (natively: Nasinski jezik). It's spoken by The Hillmen (nativel: Goranci) people in Serbia (from The Hills, "Gora", at the south of Kosovo), a Moslem people of Serbian origins, although the greater part of them call it Serbian language.

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I do




...you do what?
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Originally posted by Yugoslav Yugoslav wrote:

Oh, there is one more - I forgot: "Ours language" (natively: Nasinski jezik). It's spoken by The Hillmen (nativel: Goranci) people in Serbia (from The Hills, "Gora", at the south of Kosovo), a Moslem people of Serbian origins, although the greater part of them call it Serbian language.

There, I think I've covered all (except that no one calls it "Yugoslavian" anymore, so slash that). :)


I do




Well yeah, so do I, but that's just minority and colloquially - you do recognize Bosnian, don't you? These people mostly call their language that way (Croatian, Serbian, Zlatibor, Montenegrin, Bunyev, Zlatibor, Ours). Same manner we could say a lot call it "Serbo-Croatian", and often me too, but it's in the same position.
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In Transylvania and Banat, everyone has first, last and nick name.  If I were Nicolae Draghici Teslaru coming from Croatia to the US, I would have to choose an Americanized name like Nicola Tesla and still be 100% Romanian.  Draghici would be tough to pronounce in New York.  “Tesla” sounds vocal and it is close enough to Teslaru – the Romanian meaning for “carpenter”.  Nickname “Teslaru” means “carpenter” which was the profession of Nicolae’s grandfather.  Although hard to accept by some, The Romanian Language was spread to a much larger territory that the country "Romania" we know today.  Language survived in high-altitude places all the way to Italy and back to its historic sites of Macedonia.  Despite occupational oppressions, The Romanian Language along with its carriers has not changed in 4,000 years.  Nicola Tesla was just one of us: a Romanian who survived and opened doors to the future of Earthlings.   Croatia, Serbia, Yugoslavia, US, Romania, Hungary, all can we adopt Nicola as our genius brother. 
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In Transylvania and Banat, everyone has first, last and nick name.  If I were Nicolae Draghici Teslaru coming from Croatia to the US, I would have to choose an Americanized name like Nicola Tesla and still be 100% Romanian.  Draghici would be tough to pronounce in New York.  “Tesla” sounds vocal and it is close enough to Teslaru – the Romanian meaning for “carpenter”.  Nickname “Teslaru” means “carpenter” which was the profession of Nicolae’s grandfather.  Although hard to accept by some, The Romanian Language was spread to a much larger territory that the country "Romania" we know today.  Language survived in high-altitude places all the way to Italy and back to its historic sites of Macedonia.  Despite occupational oppressions, The Romanian Language along with its carriers has not changed in 4,000 years.  Nicola Tesla was just one of us: a Romanian who survived and opened doors to the future of Earthlings.   Croatia, Serbia, Yugoslavia, US, Romania, all can we adopt Nicola as our genius brother.

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