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    Posted: 30-Aug-2006 at 10:08
Is there any way the Roman Empire could have been organized to avoid the civil wars? Anything that Octavian could have done in the early days of the empire?
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The civil wars were before the empire and before Octavian. Please rephrase your question a bit clearer?

Women hold their councils of war in kitchens: the knives are there, and the cups of coffee, and the towels to dry the tears.
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Quote Is there any way the Roman Empire could have been organized to avoid the civil wars? Anything that Octavian could have done in the early days of the empire?


Well for about 100 years during the age of the Antonines many thought the answer was fixed. In that age the power of Emperor was a right given to the most able of the senators. Each emperor from Nerva to the Antoninus Pius remained childless adopting an heir. Thus the armies and the senate were thus appeased. It ended with Marcus Aurelius giving the throne to his son rather then following the path of his ancestors.

In terms of what Augustus could have done would be little to anything. During the age of Augustus, his centralized power had already produced in the minds of the populous the idea that such times were in the Republican past. Meaning Augustus likely did not forsee the events of say 69AD because for him the society had already reached the point in question.

In the end it is impossible to ever secure an empire in eternal peace. The emperors of Rome were not in the ariel view which we have today, they were insiders living out the empire.
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If easer had not Crossed  The Rubicon and Invaded Italy it would ave not only been One less Caivil war but Rome as  a Republic may have lived
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Civil disturbance within the late Empire was inevitable, IMO.  The fact that Roman armies were composed of more and more foreigners it's only obvious that there is some sort of social revolution within the Empire.  Furthermore, the one man rule thing doesn't lend itself well when that one man turns out to be a crazy nut, like he often times did, and fortunately for the early Empire the Praetorian guard was more or less still under control, but at some point the Praetorian Guard becomes the power in Rome itself - it can change rulers on a whim.  When you have that, quasi-independent generals with armies loyal to them, not the state, and growing pressure from outside invaders you have a recipe for civil war, disaster and ultimate demise - especially when your income is always dwindling.
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