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    Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 11:17
I am wondering, with all these preliminary elections taking place in the US: Are there any worth noting ,thus observable, differences between the 2 big parties? Or it has to do with what the candidates believe?


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Any American answering this? I would really like to know too

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Sure there are differences, but you won't find a big difference in the international arena. My view as of current is... Internationally speaking, democrats talk alot about international cooperation without emphasizing their willingness of protecting the US from all foreign enemies. The republicans talk alot about protecting the US from all foreign enemies without emphasizing their willingness too cooperate on an international scale with other countries! In my eyes, it is just sligtht differences really!
 
However, when it comes to domestic issues, that is a totally different ball-game all together! As it is, i'm waiting til' this summer before i can even understand the platform of where the two parties stand. I mean once they get their different views straightened & ironed out... it will become much more easier, to me atleast, too understand the issues as they are pesenting them and the chioce between the two becomes much more clear cut!
 
Of course, we can't forget the minority parties either. Has any other American heard anything about them in this Presidential election cycle?
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Republicans are elephants and democrats are donkeys...geez i thought you foreigners would be able to SEE the difference!
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What most Europeans don't understand is that Americans have a thriving multi-party system similar in many ways to European parties. However not even most Americans are aware of the fact that they follow a specific "multi-party" ticket, and blindly associate with "conservatives" or "liberals" or "independents" (also known as moderates). In actuality what the world knows as the Democrat and the Republican party are actually just the only two de facto allowed coalitions.

Right now the Republican coalition consists of social conservatives and libertarian economists. Whereas the Democratic coalition consists mainly of social liberals (not to be confused with classical liberals).

Major factions in each coalition can be reached by the links above, I know people hate links but it's the easiest way to get the information on the factions of each party. They go into detail about the differing ideologies amongst the two parties as well.

Again though most of the differences are on domestic issues, as thanks to America's luck in history we don't care much about foreign affairs since we haven't had many failures that stick out in the American psyche so we just assume everything will take care of itself.
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Dems are big enders and Republicans are little endersLOL.
 
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As a general rule:

Both democrats and republicans ignore facts and try very hard to cynically advance their party.

The main differences are in which facts they ignore, and who they're advancing the party against.

Essentially, when you get right down to it, those are the main differences between individual everyday normal people, too...

ah politics. The problem is rarely that it's cynical and untrustworthy and manipulative; the problem, if it is a problem at all, is just that it's very, very, human.


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Originally posted by JanusRook JanusRook wrote:

What most Europeans don't understand is that Americans have a thriving multi-party system similar in many ways to European parties. However not even most Americans are aware of the fact that they follow a specific "multi-party" ticket, and blindly associate with "conservatives" or "liberals" or "independents" (also known as moderates). In actuality what the world knows as the Democrat and the Republican party are actually just the only two de facto allowed coalitions. Right now the Republican coalition consists of social conservatives and libertarian economists. Whereas the Democratic coalition consists mainly of social liberals (not to be confused with classical liberals). Major factions in each coalition can be reached by the links above, I know people hate links but it's the easiest way to get the information on the factions of each party. They go into detail about the differing ideologies amongst the two parties as well.Again though most of the differences are on domestic issues, as thanks to America's luck in history we don't care much about foreign affairs since we haven't had many failures that stick out in the American psyche so we just assume everything will take care of itself.


One correction on this. Independents also include the radical left and right, who find the Republican and Democratic Party too mild for their taste.
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Originally posted by JanusRook JanusRook wrote:

In actuality what the world knows as the Democrat and the Republican party are actually just the only two de facto allowed coalitions.

That doesn't change that in the actual elections there are only two serious candidates.
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Quote That doesn't change that in the actual elections there are only two serious candidates.


What do you mean I think that the party primaries are the actual elections.
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I'd say the party primaries are part of the actual election.
 
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 Definately NOT. Multi - Nationals rule them both. It's the exact same here in the UK.

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If you were in Turkey, you'd be able to see the great differences.. But I don't think there are differences between Democrats and Republicans.
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While this is kind of off topic, as it more directly deals with the media, I think its safe to assume that the media is a reflection of party politics within the US. Anyways, its just a joke, and a bit dated, but it makes the point well.

Several Soviet officials are given a tour of the United States. For two weeks, they go from place to place, have meetings with American officials, and stay in luxurious hotels. Close to the end of their trip, a reporter sits down with them to interview them about what they thought of the United States. The reporter asks his first question:
"What was the biggest difference between the United States and the Soviet Union that you observed?"
The Russians replied: "We watched a lot of news when we where here, and read a lot of newspapers. It was the biggest thing we noticed: that all of the news, wherever we were staying at the time, was the same. Same analysis, same opinion, same everything! To get people to write the same opinions in our country, we have to terrorize them, torture them, pull out their fingernails... But here, you don't need any of that. What's you're secret?"

Okay, maybe its in bad taste, but the mainstream political differentiation in the US is minimal compared to other countries because of the two party system it employs. In a two party system, parties tend to drift towards the middle in an attempt to gain the greatest following.
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