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Topic: I am coming out of the closet finally
Posted By: eaglecap
Subject: I am coming out of the closet finally
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 22:23
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shhhh! keep it quiet!


I love bird watching!!!

My new home in southern Arizona is great for that and I have never seen so many varieties of song birds and their colors are incredible. I do not have to go to the mountains but just sit in my front yard and watch them and every morning they sing to me with incredible variation and tunes. Some have funny names but I love watching them.
I was told we’re on the migration path for many birds.

Anyone else who like to come out of the closet- do you like bird watching???


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Posted By: Parnell
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 22:50
I'm glad you've finally come out of the closet Eaglecap. Doesn't help anyone when you keep these things inside Wink

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Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 23:49
Although I am shocked by You being ...  but I admire your courage!

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Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 23:56
Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Although I am shocked by You being ...  but I admire your courage!


ya'll make me laugh but no comments about bird watching!! Are there any other fans????

Although, I still love only women and will not change there, just to make that one clear-

We have turkey vultures which are neat to watch but also variety of hawks and golden eagles but I have not see the latter.

I remember learning about the Rufus sided towhee in biology - a very pretty bird (red sided towhee) I don't know why they can't just say red instead of rufus.

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Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 00:03
Here on the west coast of Sweden we have many birds. Recently a couple of Eurasian Eagle Owls (Bubo bubo) moved into a sports Arena in the middle of the city of Gothenburg. That attracted a lot of birdlovers:
 
 
 
Picture from: http://www.larslundmark.se/berguv.asp - http://www.larslundmark.se/berguv.asp


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 00:05
And yes, it is really fun and interesting to watch birds.


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 00:11
Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

Here on the west coast of Sweden we have many birds. Recently a couple of Eurasian Eagle Owls (Bubo bubo) moved into a sports Arena in the middle of the city of Gothenburg. That attracted a lot of birdlovers:
 

 

 

Picture from: http://www.larslundmark.se/berguv.asp - http://www.larslundmark.se/berguv.asp


that is one neat looking owl. We have a lot of owls here. When I lived on the east side of Washington State, in Spokane, I had seen bald eagles by the little Spokane River. What a majestic sight!!! I would love to go to Alaska to see the large numbers of bald eagles there.

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Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 00:33
It sounds nice with the bald eagles. Here in Sweden we have two indigenous kinds of eaagles the golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) and the sea eagle (Haliaeetus albicilla). The latter one is closely related to the bald headed eagle. It is our largest bird of prey. But the golden eagle is considered more ferocious.
 
Talking about owl, we have thirteen species here in Sweden, the European eagle owl is largest and the Eurasian pygmy owl (Glaucidium passerinum) is the smallest. I have seen some of our species of owl and heard some more. It´s really fascinating to hear their hooting and other sounds in the night.
 
   http://www.kofkarlstad.se/hf/mp07/ring/sparvuggla.jpg -
 
Young Eurasian pygmy owls
 
Photo from: http://www.birds.se/imgspec.asp?Qimg=476&Qlangues=Sv - http://www.birds.se/imgspec.asp?Qimg=476&Qlangues=Sv
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 00:57
Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

It sounds nice with the bald eagles. Here in Sweden we have two indigenous kinds of eaagles the golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) and the sea eagle (Haliaeetus albicilla). The latter one is closely related to the bald headed eagle. It is our largest bird of prey. But the golden eagle is considered more ferocious.
 

Talking about owl, we have thirteen species here in Sweden, the European eagle owl is largest and the Eurasian pygmy owl (Glaucidium passerinum) is the smallest. I have seen some of our species of owl and heard some more. It´s really fascinating to hear their hooting and other sounds in the night.

 

   http://www.kofkarlstad.se/hf/mp07/ring/sparvuggla.jpg -

 

Young Eurasian pygmy owls

 

Photo from: http://www.birds.se/imgspec.asp?Qimg=476&Qlangues=Sv - http://www.birds.se/imgspec.asp?Qimg=476&Qlangues=Sv

 

 

 

 

 


wow they look really intereting. I do not know how many species are in the desert southwest but you have a lot. I have been to Europe six times but never to Sweden. The first owl you posted looks like one of our great horn owls. Do you have barn owls? How about eagles in Sweden? We have golden and bald eagles but I am not sure if we have the latter down here since I recently relocated from our Pacific Northwest.
great horn owl

Francesca... flickr.com
spotted owls

dpalmer_md flickr.com



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Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 01:28
Here in Sweden we have two kind of eagles the golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) and the sea eagle (Haliaeetus albicilla). The latter one is closely related to the bald headed eagle. It is our largest bird of prey. But the golden eagle is considered more ferocious.
 
Barn owls (Tyto alba) we have in the most southern part of Sweden, the province of Scania.
 
Your great horn owl (Bubo virginianus) is a very close relative to our European eagle owl. 
 
Those spotted owls really looks nice. Here in Sweden we have the tawny owl (Strix aluco) who belong to the same genus as the spotted owl.
 
What´s the red birds name in your post? It´s really beautiful.
 
 
 
 
Tawny owl
 
Picture from: http://www.svarthuvadvitbukspapegoja.se/Main_ugglor.htm - http://www.svarthuvadvitbukspapegoja.se/Main_ugglor.htm


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 01:36
By the way here is Swedens national bird, the common blackbird (Turdus merula), it really sings beautiful:
 
 
 
 
The common blackbird (Turdus merula)
 
http://www.larslundmark.se/koltrast.asp - http://www.larslundmark.se/koltrast.asp


Posted By: Parnell
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 10:32
This is a bird not many of you will be familiar with:




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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 11:03
Where did you manage to get a photograph of one of 'those' Parnell?!

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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 11:22
Meet Pontus.




Arg, picture won't show.
edit: now I now why. The censor filter actually destroys the adress.  Ermm Maybe it's time to remove "sl*g" from the filter? I would never have known that that was a bad word if the filter hadn't stepped...



edit2: found another picture.





Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 11:50
Is that a camera trick of some sort, or simply a photoshopping job?


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Posted By: Parnell
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 14:36
Originally posted by Knights Knights wrote:

Where did you manage to get a photograph of one of 'those' Parnell?!


Flying disease monkeys are quite difficult to get a hold of, you know LOL


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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 15:08
Very difficult; let alone getting a hold of them in large groups!

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Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 16:16
Cool, Eaglecap, ever since I was 11, I also have enjoyed birdwatching. One time I saw a grackle and a crow fighting a turf war. Another time, I saw a blue jay completely being a jerk to some other birds.

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Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 21:40
Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa Emperor Barbarossa wrote:

Cool, Eaglecap, ever since I was 11, I also have enjoyed birdwatching. One time I saw a grackle and a crow fighting a turf war. Another time, I saw a blue jay completely being a jerk to some other birds.


I think we have grackles. They are large birds but not as big as a crow but with a yellow beak and they make funny noises.

The crows in Istanbul looked like our crows but most of their bodies are gray with black wings.

We have numerous species of black birds but recently I saw a flock of them eating something by the dairy cows down the road. They had black bodies but a bright yellow head and looked very strange.

The red bird in the picture above is a- Vibrant Arizona Cardinal

This is a cool pic of an owl taken in Arizona but it does not say what species of owl.

gbrummett flickr.com

Arizona Barn owl

lindaestel flickr.com
I could not get a pic but road runners are a common sight in the Arizona desert along with Turkey vultures.

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Posted By: Windemere
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 22:21
Eaglecap, the red bird (with a black face) in your post that Carcharodon inquired about is actually a male Northern Cardinal (cardinalis cardinalis), found not only in Arizona but throughout eastern North America. Formerly it was more common in the southern part of North America, when I was growing up in the 1950's and 1960's, we rarely ever saw it in New England. It's now become a little more common up here, though, due to people putting out bird-feeders in the winter. ( I don't think it migrates, and it needs to have a supply of seeds to eat in the winter when the ground is covered with snow.) The male is bright red with a jet-black face. The female is more of a rufous (brownish  red) color and her face is more of a duller black. They're nice birds to have around.

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Posted By: Windemere
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 22:40
Eaglecap, you were right in identifying the bird as an Arizona Cardinal, though. I just googled it, & it turns out that there actually is a subspecies of Northern Cardinal in Arizona that's slightly larger than the Northern Cardinals in the rest of the country. It's known as Cardinalis cardinalis superbus.

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Posted By: King John
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 22:43
The unnamed owl in the post two posts above this looks like it could be a Great Horned Owl.  But it's an awesome picture.


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 23:50
Here is a little film with the Eurasian Eagle Owl (Berguv in Swedish) in the province of Halland in the southwestern part of Sweden:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7q5QpiowwI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7q5QpiowwI
 
Here you can hear the lovely song of our national bird, the Common Blackbird:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=130_sb8opmQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=130_sb8opmQ


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2009 at 23:57
And here is one of my favourites, the male of the big Wood Grouse (Tetrao urogallus) a magnificent bird that I a couple of times have been lucky to meet in the forest:
 
 
 
 
Tjäder ((Tetrao urogallus)
 
http://www.rogerbook.com/Bilder.htm - http://www.rogerbook.com/Bilder.htm


Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2009 at 17:35
Originally posted by eaglecap eaglecap wrote:


I think we have grackles. They are large birds but not as big as a crow but with a yellow beak and they make funny noises.

The crows in Istanbul looked like our crows but most of their bodies are gray with black wings.

We have numerous species of black birds but recently I saw a flock of them eating something by the dairy cows down the road. They had black bodies but a bright yellow head and looked very strange.


Yes, those are grackles. They are actual related to crows. As for the Istanbul crows, I find that interesting, the geographic variation of a species. Maybe those black birds were orioles (there is a species of orioles that are black with a yellow head, I saw them in Maryland a few years ago).


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Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2009 at 19:24
Originally posted by Windemere Windemere wrote:

Eaglecap, you were right in identifying the bird as an Arizona Cardinal, though. I just googled it, & it turns out that there actually is a subspecies of Northern Cardinal in Arizona that's slightly larger than the Northern Cardinals in the rest of the country. It's known as Cardinalis cardinalis superbus.


The red cardinal- I have not seen one of those yet in my yard but I have seen the following; cactus wren, road runners, white and red crowned sparrows. turkey vultures, grackles, ugly English sparrows, crows, oriels, some unknown hawks possibly red tail, but some I do not know their names like-
there is a big gray bird that looks like a cardinal and has a bright red chest and some other small dark bird with a funny crest. I need to get an Arizona bird book. I have not seen any Oregon juncos here but oh yes some type of thrasher which has a long beak that points downward and they forage around in the bushes looking for critters to eat which probably include insects and small lizards- plenty of those here.

Cactus wren- I see a lot of them in my yard. I gather it is the Arizona state bird.


sdakotabirds.com
the Curved billed AZ thrasher

gimlack flickr.com

Road runner: I see them all the time.

Swanee 3 flickr.com
Turkey vulture a common sight soaring in our all too blue skies.

Ardeola flickr.com


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 11-Jun-2009 at 06:08

Bird watching - different

Look, a dead bird !                                      Where?

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Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 11-Jun-2009 at 20:40
Then we of course have the beautiful cranes that every spring congregate at Lake Hornborga in the province of Västergötland. It´s a fascinating spectacle to see and hear thousands and thousands of these birds in one place:
 
 
 
Cranes (Grus grus). This year 18 500 cranes aggregated at lake Hornborga.
 
Picture from: http://sydsvenskan.se/sverige/article423268/18%C2%A0500---nytt-tranrekord.html - http://sydsvenskan.se/sverige/article423268/18%C2%A0500---nytt-tranrekord.html
 
 


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 20:06
Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

Then we of course have the beautiful cranes that every spring congregate at Lake Hornborga in the province of Västergötland. It´s a fascinating spectacle to see and hear thousands and thousands of these birds in one place:
 

 

 

Cranes (Grus grus). This year 18 500 cranes aggregated at lake Hornborga.

 

Picture from: http://sydsvenskan.se/sverige/article423268/18%C2%A0500---nytt-tranrekord.html - http://sydsvenskan.se/sverige/article423268/18%C2%A0500---nytt-tranrekord.html

 

 


Now I would love to fly to Sweden just to see that!! I know the Turnbull wildlife refuge, near Spokane, had a lot of water fowl and I use to love to go out there and bird watch via my mountain bike.
I am amazed how some bird here land on the cactus to feed on insects with getting injured at all. Many of them have barbs which hook right into your skin. see cactus wren above I still have not found out the name of that bird I see here that resemble a cardinal but is mostly gray with a bright red chest. We also have a lot of turle doves here which I think are beautiful birds and taste good also-

we have lots of quail also

marksontok flickr.com
Now they do taste good!!!

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Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 20:41
Nice looking birds. Nearly to nice to eat LOL


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 20:57
By the way here is a video with the Cranes at Hornborga lake. this day there was only 13 200 cranes at the lake but later this spring they would reach the number of 18 500.
 
It seems that the weather was a bit rainy and grey the day this video was filmed. That means that the brilliance and colours of the birds doesn´t show fully. When the sun is shining the spectacle is really overwhelmingly beautiful.
Beides the cranes there are many other species of birds at Lake Hornborga, for example a lot of Whooper swans (Cygnus cygnus) the large white birds you can see here and there among the cranes.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXzAMhU8nik - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXzAMhU8nik
 
 
Here you can read about, and see many amazing pictures from, Lake Hornborga:
 
http://www.fssbirding.org.uk/sweden2008trip.htm - http://www.fssbirding.org.uk/sweden2008trip.htm
 


Posted By: Carcharodon
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2009 at 21:09
 
           Panoramic picture from a channel at Lake Hornborga:
 
Crane © 2008 Fraser Simpson
        
                 Flying cranes at Lake Hornborga 
 
               Cranes © 2008 Fraser Simpson
 
 
 
               Close up of a crane
 
Eurasian Crane, Hornborgasjön (Lake Hornborga), Sweden © 2008 Fraser Simpson
 
 
 
 
 
 
                   Pics from: http://www.fssbirding.org.uk/sweden2008trip.htm - http://www.fssbirding.org.uk/sweden2008trip.htm
 
 


Posted By: DukeC
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2009 at 14:24
I too also have to admit to a strong "attraction" to birds.LOL
 
Some of my favorites are Evening Grossbeaks, Rufous Hummingbirds, Mountain Bluebirds and Western Tanagers.


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2009 at 18:44
Originally posted by DukeC DukeC wrote:

I too also have to admit to a strong "attraction" to birds.LOL
 

Some of my favorites are Evening Grossbeaks, Rufous Hummingbirds, Mountain Bluebirds and Western Tanagers.


Canada is incredible for bird life. I use to live just two hours south of BC and did a lot of wilderness trips there. We have an area owned by the Nature Conservancy in the Huachua moutains, on the edge of Coronodo National Forest, that I think has over 300 species of birds. I think it is the largest concenstration of song birds in the USA. It is mostly dry oak forests with cactus and a nice year around creek. I hear those grackles everyday from my house and some pretty birds sit by my window most every morning and sing.

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Posted By: DukeC
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2009 at 19:33
Sounds like heaven.
 
One of my favorite places was the Stanley Park seawall in Vancouver for the seabirds like Oyster Catchers, Pelagic Cormorants and Harlequin Ducks. It's amazing to watch a seagull swallow a starfish whole.


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2009 at 17:17
Originally posted by DukeC DukeC wrote:

Sounds like heaven.
 

One of my favorite places was the Stanley Park seawall in Vancouver for the seabirds like Oyster Catchers, Pelagic Cormorants and Harlequin Ducks. It's amazing to watch a seagull swallow a starfish whole.


hmmmm that would hurt!! I have been to Vancouver, WA but never to the BC version but I have come close when I backpacked in Manfield Provincial Park down the Pacific Crest Trail intto the Pasaytan wilderness on the Washington State side, awesome country!!

Yesterday I saw five turkey vultures soaring in the sky but then I saw the road kill they were eating. It is part of their niche in nature I suppose- yuck.

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Posted By: DukeC
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2009 at 20:23

No vultures up here, but the ravens and crows fill in for that niche.

The Similkameen country where you hiked is pretty spectacular, but can get very hot in the summer. Not far to the east around Ossoyos is a small desert and the only scorpions found in Canada IIRC.
 



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