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The Minoans in Germany

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Topic: The Minoans in Germany
Posted By: Flipper
Subject: The Minoans in Germany
Date Posted: 21-May-2009 at 10:00
There 're some excavations in Germany that seem to reveal contact of the Minoans with Frisia. I can't understand 100% the text. If someone could make a summary i would be grateful!

I think it says somewhere there could be up to 4000 people in a city numbering 10000!

http://www.geo.de/GEO/import_nicht_zugeordnet/4669.html - http://www.geo.de/GEO/import_nicht_zugeordnet/4669.html

Btw, I posted once 2 items of Linear script from Germany on the forum, where one of them seemed to carry the word zakaru (sugar?).

http://allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=26351 - http://allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=26351


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Posted By: Northman
Date Posted: 21-May-2009 at 10:23

The article talks about Hans Peter Duerr (Culture Historian) who 11 years ago started searching for a certain settlement, Rungholt, mentioned in legends.
He has found that the settlement was destroyed by a flood in 1362, and he presented an even more provocative thesis
He claims to be able to prove that the people living at the coast of the Northsee (Friiesland) had direct trade-relations with the cultures from the Mediterranean area, 3000 years ago.

Rungholt was not a city strictly speaking, but in the trade-season, there could be up to 4,000 people gathered there, and to compare that number, Hamburg had 10,000 citizens at that time.

Maybe Temujin will do a more thorough extraction if needed.



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Posted By: fantasus
Date Posted: 21-May-2009 at 13:52
Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

The article talks about Hans Peter Duerr (Culture Historian) who 11 years ago started searching for a certain settlement, Rungholt, mentioned in legends.
He has found that the settlement was destroyed by a flood in 1362, and he presented an even more provocative thesis
He claims to be able to prove that the people living at the coast of the Northsee (Friiesland) had direct trade-relations with the cultures from the Mediterranean area, 3000 years ago.

Rungholt was not a city strictly speaking, but in the trade-season, there could be up to 4,000 people gathered there, and to compare that number, Hamburg had 10,000 citizens at that time.

Maybe Temujin will do a more thorough extraction if needed.

"That time" must be 1362, not 3000 years ago since "Hamburg" did not exist 3000 years ago.


Posted By: Barbapapa
Date Posted: 30-May-2009 at 04:13
the part about the minoan stuff is....

In deeper layers, they found that at the very same place had been settlements already.
the place that was destroid 1366 was found 1200 but the deeper layers prove, there had been a settlement at 500BC

In an  even deeper layer they found ceramics from the eastern mediteranian and middle east, dating back to 1400BC.
Thats the revolutionary found. Proving Minoans had been at the German north sea coast at 1400BC for whatever reasons.




Posted By: docyabut
Date Posted: 30-May-2009 at 04:35
 I can see how the  minoans could have migrated all over the old world :)


Posted By: Flipper
Date Posted: 31-May-2009 at 10:47
Generally i'm skeptic about Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Egyptians etc may have discovered America, Hawaii, the moon...

However, if there's a good basis for it and they have more than just some objects that look Greek, Roman etc, i'm pretty willing to know the story :)


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Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 31-May-2009 at 14:03
Originally posted by Flipper Flipper wrote:

There 're some excavations in Germany that seem to reveal contact of the Minoans with Frisia. I can't understand 100% the text. If someone could make a summary i would be grateful!

I think it says somewhere there could be up to 4000 people in a city numbering 10000!

http://www.geo.de/GEO/import_nicht_zugeordnet/4669.html - http://www.geo.de/GEO/import_nicht_zugeordnet/4669.html

Btw, I posted once 2 items of Linear script from Germany on the forum, where one of them seemed to carry the word zakaru (sugar?).

http://allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=26351 - http://allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=26351

I can believe this. I remember reading an article in National Geographic about this ancient guy maybe 5,000 years ago from modern day Switzerland that traveled all the way to Britain. I guess these findings sort of put a damper on the "pure racial" theories, since many ancient peoples traveled around the world and settled in different areas.


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