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Topic: Azeri Waffen-SS
Posted By: Emil_Diniyev
Subject: Azeri Waffen-SS
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2009 at 19:53
The Azerbaijani Legion, or in German, Azerbajdzansche Legion, was one of the foreign units of the Wermacht. The Azerbaijani Legion was formed in Dec 1941 as the Kaukasischer-Mohammedanische Legion (Muslim Caucasus Legion) and was re designated 1942 into two separate legions, the North Caucasian legion and the Azerbaijani legion[1]. It was made up mainly of former Azerbaijani POW volunteers but also volunteers from other peoples in the area. It was part of the Ostlegionen. It was used to form the 162nd (Turkistan) Infanterie-Division of the Wermacht in 1943.[2] Later, some of these Azerbaijanis joined the Azeri Waffen SS Volunteer Formations. Many Azerbaijanis joined here in hopes of liberating their homeland from Soviet occupation. One Azerbaijani soldier who was captured said to the Germans that he was anti-Nazi, anti-Bolshevik, and only wanted an opportunity to free his homeland. [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_Legion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_Legion


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=94674 - http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=94674



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Posted By: erkut
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2009 at 21:08
What happend to them and their families after war? I mean did they exiled to Syberia? or did they executed?

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Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2009 at 21:55
Originally posted by erkut erkut wrote:

What happend to them and their families after war? I mean did they exiled to Syberia? or did they executed?
Following the war, the British and Swedish governments caved into Soviet pressure and repatriated several hundred thousand Soviet citizens against their will. Included in these repatriations were General Vlasov's Russian Army of Liberation, the Ukrainian SS Division "Galicia" and other smaller units.  A small number were accepted by the USA, but these were mostly Balts and a few Ukrainians (viewed as being better educated and easier to culturally assimilate into the USA).
 
When deported, some were executed. Surprisingly, Stalin was relatively lenient by his standards and most such men were sent to forced labor camps. The leniency was probably due to the fact that the USSR desperatly needed laborers of any sort to rebuild.  Those deported to USSR were a mixed group and included bonafide war criminals as well as anti communist patriots.
 
 
 


Posted By: Sarmat
Date Posted: 01-May-2009 at 06:03
Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Emil_Diniyev wrote:

The Azerbaijani Legion, or in German, Azerbajdzansche Legion, was one of the foreign units of the Wermacht. The Azerbaijani Legion was formed in Dec 1941 as the Kaukasischer-Mohammedanische Legion (Muslim Caucasus Legion) and was re designated 1942 into two separate legions, the North Caucasian legion and the Azerbaijani legion[1]. It was made up mainly of former Azerbaijani POW volunteers but also volunteers from other peoples in the area. It was part of the Ostlegionen. It was used to form the 162nd (Turkistan) Infanterie-Division of the Wermacht in 1943.[2] Later, some of these Azerbaijanis joined the Azeri Waffen SS Volunteer Formations. Many Azerbaijanis joined here in hopes of liberating their homeland from Soviet occupation. One Azerbaijani soldier who was captured said to the Germans that he was anti-Nazi, anti-Bolshevik, and only wanted an opportunity to free his homeland. [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_Legion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_Legion

 
Most of these soldiers never saw the action on the Eastern Front being considered unreliable by the German Command and instead were sent to fight partisans in Eastern Europe and Italy where they often performed "dirty job" including executions of the local resistant fighters.
 
In the very end of the war most of the Azeris that were stationed in Italy started to aid Italian partisans and had several clashes with German occupant forces.


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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 02-May-2009 at 17:14
at the end of the war they were in Southern France afaik, i mean this particular unit.


Posted By: Sarmat
Date Posted: 02-May-2009 at 17:43
This link says they were in Italy:
 
http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5801 - http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5801


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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 04-May-2009 at 08:32
Originally posted by Cryptic Cryptic wrote:

Following the war, the British and Swedish governments caved into Soviet pressure and repatriated several hundred thousand Soviet citizens against their will.


Don't know about the British case, but no Azeris were in Sweden by the end of the war. 160 Balts who fought in the German armies were handed over though. Even at the time it was a most controversial decision and seen as extermely treacherous. The survivors got an official apology from the king a decade ago. However, the thousands of civilian Soviet citizens (or rather, what Stalin considered Soviet citizens) only the Communist party wanted to hand over, and they stayed in Sweden.


Posted By: Reginmund
Date Posted: 04-May-2009 at 09:50
Waffen SS, champions of multicultural integration.

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Posted By: Etnad
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2009 at 14:52
Not really the ideal SS-soldier :D


Posted By: WolfHound85
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2009 at 20:38
Makes sense didn't a lot of people fight for the Nazis in hopes to liberate their country from the Soviet Union? I know some Ukrainians fought along side of the Nazis in hope to establish a Ukrainian Homeland. It would make sense the Azerbaijanis wanted the same.

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Posted By: es_bih
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2009 at 21:17
Originally posted by Reginmund Reginmund wrote:

Waffen SS, champions of multicultural integration.


Love the irony LOL


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Posted By: Chookie
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2009 at 21:29
Originally posted by WolfHound85 WolfHound85 wrote:

Makes sense didn't a lot of people fight for the Nazis in hopes to liberate their country from the Soviet Union?

Undoubtedly. That is, after all the main reason Finland took the Axis side in the war. Additionally, there were a great many nations represented in the various SS-Freikorp.

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Posted By: WolfHound85
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 03:54
Originally posted by Chookie Chookie wrote:

Originally posted by WolfHound85 WolfHound85 wrote:

Makes sense didn't a lot of people fight for the Nazis in hopes to liberate their country from the Soviet Union?

Undoubtedly. That is, after all the main reason Finland took the Axis side in the war. Additionally, there were a great many nations represented in the various SS-Freikorp.

Well of course if I was Finnish I would fight against the Russians too. Its crazy how many different ethnicities fought along side the axis against the USSR. 


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Posted By: Sarmat
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 05:16
Surprisingly, but the biggest part of the soldiers recruited by Nazis among the USSR population were Russians themselves. Around a million under some estimates served in the formations of "Russian Liberation Movement" and "Russian Liberation Army." Bitter memories of the Civil war and terrors of Bolshevik and Stalin regimes forced many Russians to seek possible allies against Stalin tyrany even among Nazi invaders.
 
Unfortunately, most of them very soon realized that "good intentions" of those new allies were just illusions. I, personally, believe that if Hitler abandoned his idiotic Russohobia the fate of the struggle on the Eastern Front could be very different.


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