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9,500-Year-Old City Found Underwater Off India

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Topic: 9,500-Year-Old City Found Underwater Off India
Posted By: maqsad
Subject: 9,500-Year-Old City Found Underwater Off India
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 05:20

Discovery in Bay of Cambay Will Force
Western Archaeologists to Rewrite History

The civilization of Ancient Egypt occurred in a past so remote that today it seems mystical. The pyramids and other temples, with their hieroglyphics depicting a flourishing civilization, have a mysterious, almost magical appeal. It seems inconceivable that people of an advanced society could have walked those ancient streets.

Now, it was announced in January, a civilization has been uncovered that would have appeared just as ancient to the people who built the pyramids as the pyramids seem to us.

According to marine scientists in India, archaeological remains of this lost city have been discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India. And carbon dating says that they are 9,500 years old.

This news completely contradicts the position of most Western historians and archaeologists, who (because it did not fit their theories) have always rejected, ignored, or suppressed evidence of an older view of mankind's existence on planet Earth. Human civilization is now provably much more ancient than many have believed.

According to the BBC's Tom Housden, reporting on the Cambay find:

    The vast city which is five miles long and two miles wide is believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years. The site was discovered by chance last year by oceanographers from India's National Institute of Ocean Technology, who were conducting a survey of pollution. Using sidescan sonar, which sends a beam of sound waves down to the bottom of the ocean, they identified huge geometrical structures at a depth of 120 feet. Debris recovered from the site including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads, sculpture, and human bones and teeth has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old (BBC article).

map showing site Several reports confirm this estimate. Housden added, "The whole model of the origins of civilisation will have to be remade from scratch."

Unheard-of Scope of Cambay Ruins

The BBC article tells us that the remains of this ancient city stand upon "enormous foundations." Marine archaeologists discovered them with a technology known as "sub-bottom profiling."

Author and filmmaker Graham Hancock, an authority on archaeological investigations of ancient civilizations, reportedly said that the evidence was compelling. For example, he said that the oceanographers had found two large blocks that were larger than anything that's ever been found. "Cities on this scale," Hancock told BBC Online, "are not known in the archaeological record until roughly 4,500 years ago when the first big cities begin to appear in Mesopotamia.

Theorists are postulating that the area where this city exists was submerged when the ice caps melted at the end of the last Ice Age.

"A month ago in mid-January [2002]," says Hancock on his website, "marine scientists in India announced they had sonar images of square and rectangular shapes about 130 feet down off the northwestern coast of India in the Gulf of Khambhat (Cambay). . . . [There are] sonar shapes with 90-degree angles. The Indian Minister of Science and Technology ordered that the site be dredged. What was found has surprised archaeologists around the world" (GrahamHancock.com/news.)

The Find Includes Human Remains

Linda Moulton Howe, who investigates occurrences of this type worldwide, interviewed Michael Cremo about this new discovery. Cremo is a researcher and author of the book Forbidden Archaeology. Cremo, Howe said, has visited India and attended local meetings about the Cambay site.

"Within the past few months," Cremo told her, "the engineers began some dredging operations there and they pulled up human fossil bones, fossil wood, stone tools, pieces of pottery, and many other things that indicated that it indeed was a human habitation site that they had. And they were able to do more intensive sonar work there and were able to identify more structures. They appeared to have been laid out on the bank of a river that had been flowing from the Indian subcontinent out into that area."

According to Howe:

    Even if we don't know what the cultural background of the people is, if it does happen to be a city that is 9500 years old, that is older than the Sumerian civilization by several thousand years. It is older than the Egyptian, older than the Chinese. So it would radically affect our whole picture of the development of urban civilization on this planet.

    Now, if it further happens that additional research is able to identify the culture of the people who lived in that city that's now underwater if it turns out they are a Vedic people, which I think is quite probable given the location of this off the coast of India I think that would radically change the whole picture of Indian history which has basically been written by Western archaeologists.






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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 10:56
Interesting: any other authorities beside Hancock verifying this? I'm not disputing the claim, but Hancock's reputation as a reliable source is not exactly solid these days.
 
By the way, 9500 years old would still make this city younger than Catal Huyuk in Turkey.


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Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 17:46
I just came across it at random while looking for support for my Historical Amusement thread. I have no idea if its a hoax or totally legit.


Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 18:27
Thats cool. I hope its true.

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Posted By: M. Nachiappan
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 04:34

Considering certain common features of factors of culture, tradition, heritage etc., it is evident that those areas might have been connected together.

In such an exigerncy, the North-African parts, the Arabian Peinsula, India must have been joined together and it has been the part of plate-tectonic theory.
 
Considering the level of settled structures, the antiquity could easily be understood.
 
The same features are noted in the off-shore sub-merged structures at Mahabalipuram.
 
Thus, the chronology factor has been very important.


Posted By: M. Nachiappan
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 04:36

The photo shown by Masqad is of what?



Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 05:14
A computerized reproduction of the ruins before they were flooded when the tectonic plate collapsed near that point.


Posted By: Sadaf
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 09:48
That is Dwarka, the city of Krishna.


Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 18:20
That is Dwarka, the city of Krishna.

Nice try Vivek


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"O Byzantines! If success is your desire and if you seek right guidance and want your empire to remain then give the pledge to this Prophet"
~ Heraclius, Roman Emperor


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 21:13
I saw this a couple of days ago and posted it on another forum. It initially looked like they were just interviewing Hancock for his views etc. However after I looked into it more, it seems as if he's involved with the interpretations of the items found. AND OUR INTREPID CRUSADER FOR THE TRUTH has stepped in it again. He has 15-20 Photos on his website he says are man made "artifacts". They are concretions, formed by nature [imho] maybe one shows something different but you really can't be sure from that photo. The sonar scan of the city was done by someone from the Indian Ministry of Science. I don't doubt that they have found a very ancient habitation site, but I don't believe they have positive proof, yet.   

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Posted By: sayak
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 11:13
is the carbon dating accurate?hyperbolic claims have been made before. vedic civilisation-hee hee Big smile


Posted By: M. Nachiappan
Date Posted: 09-Jan-2007 at 06:55

If it is a computer generated figure, how the scale erected vertically on RHS also appears?

About the C-14 dating of the artifacts, the wooden ones have been dated to 3350 BCE / 5500 YBP.

The 9000 comes considering the other evidences.



Posted By: K. V. Ramakrishna Rao
Date Posted: 11-Jan-2007 at 08:37

The articles of Dr. Kathiroli and others on the subject matter is available in the web, in which, they have given the photos of artifacts and as well as datings.

In any case, the civilization existed under-water some 9000 years back poses many questions?

How, when and why it was submerged?
Does the sealevel rising have anything to do with that?
If so, to which period it could correlated?
Why no human skeletons were found?

 



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Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 21:39
wow it was really nice thanks

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Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 21:49
Well, what's going on? It is truth or an hoax?
 
 


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 23:12

The articles of Dr. Kathiroli and others on the subject matter is available in the web, in which, they have given the photos of artifacts and as well as datings.

 
K.V.-
 
Could you post a couple links for us?  I did a search once before and the only pictures I could find was on Hancock's site.  I would really like to see something from a more credible source.
 


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2007 at 09:41
Ok, I did a search using the names KV gave us, and came up with some links.
 
                           http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1905/19050670.htm - http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1905/19050670.htm
 
This link is to an article that is in response to the first and is defending Dr. Kathiroli.
 
                        http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/khambat/khambat01.htm - http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/khambat/khambat01.htm
 
 
In the first article a K V Raman former head of the Indian Archeology Dept. is referred to, K V Raman, K V Ramakrishna? hmmm.Wink


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Posted By: Hick
Date Posted: 01-Mar-2007 at 22:55
--Edited by Omar--


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Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 03:58
Ciao ararararr or however you spelt it!

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"O Byzantines! If success is your desire and if you seek right guidance and want your empire to remain then give the pledge to this Prophet"
~ Heraclius, Roman Emperor



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