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    Posted: 03-Jan-2008 at 03:46
I would like to know the estimated population in renaissance Europe (16th century) by regions. Info about Anatolia, north Africa and middle east is also welcome.
If anyone have data or good links, please provide them here, thank you.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Maharbbal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jan-2008 at 06:04
Hi if I remember correctly France was the most populous region with 15 m, Italy had more or less the same number of inhabitants, Germany was around 13 m. Enland had around 6 and Spain 9. The Low Countries had around 2 and Sweden 1. Anatolia was around 20m.


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Axeman, do you know alredy this site http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/  ?
BTW, the population of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was about 8 mln around 1580.
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In a way, population studies for any historical period prove fertile ground for surmise and controversy. In standard analyses and in a European context, the centuries 1300-1500 are viewed as years of drastic decline consequent to the Black Death so that at the opening of the 16th century the following estimates have been proposed:
Cisalpine Italian peninsula: 7.5 million
Iberian peninsula: 7 million
British Isles: 3 million
Cisrhenish France: 12.5 million
Transrhenish Germany: 6.3 million
Scandanavia: 0.7 million
 
Now, these estimates are premised as extrapolations from surviving 14th/15th century Church records on baptism, marriage and death as calculated from a purported pre-Black Death high in the 14th century (the oldest extant parish registers). Data for Eastern Europe. however, falls more into the realm of guesstimate. Nevertheless, there is one group that makes a hobby of such work: The International Union for the Scientific Study of Population.
 
 
The significance of the 16th century (1500-1600) lies in the stabilization of populations after a century of decline so that by the opening of the 17th century the balance between birth and death rates characteristic of the 1500s changed and births repeatedly exceeded mortality rates overall. Now, this characterization is, naturally, a generalization given the factual differences between micro and macro approaches. For example, while the population of the Protestand Netherlands drastically increased in the years 1550-1650, numbers declined in the subsequent century with respect to that of the Catholic Netherlands. Welcome to the hair-pulling over statistics.  
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Thanks for responses everyone.
Originally posted by ataman

Axeman, do you know alredy this site http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/  ?
BTW, the population of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was about 8 mln around 1580.

How did the Commonwealth's population further divided between the ethnicities?

And what do you think of this map, is it accurate?

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Originally posted by axeman


How did the Commonwealth's population further divided between the ethnicities?
 
 
I don't know data for 16th c., but in the first half of 17th c. it was: 40% the Poles, 40% the Ruthenians, 20% others
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And what do you think of this map, is it accurate?
 
It might be good in general, but there are mistakes in details. For example Wrocław (where I live) was the city with only minority of the Poles. The majority was German in 16th c.
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Dont know if this is relevent but thier was a surge in british population at this time causing issues for Edward VI (rebbelions of 1549) try the book mid tudor crisis for data
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The following are population estimates for 1500. All estimates come from Atlas of World Population by Colin McEvedy and Richard Jones. The book was published in the 70's, so some of these countries no longer exist or have been renamed. However, the estimates are based off of the region borders as they existed in the 1970's.
  • British Isles: 5 million
  • Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark): 2 million
  • France: 15 million
  • Belgium and Luxembourg: 1.25 million
  • The Netherlands: 900,000
  • Germany: 9 million
  • Poland: 4 million
  • Czechoslovakia: 3 million
  • Switzerland: 800,000
  • Austria: 2 million
  • Hungary: 1.25 million
  • Romania: 2 million
  • Spain: 6.5 million
  • Portugal: 1.25 million
  • Italy: 10 million
  • The Balkans: 4.5 million
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Add the Americas with 12-24 millions.
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