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    Posted: 26-Mar-2007 at 13:36

What are the oldest roads which are also used today?

Here's I found an interesting one:
 
 
From ancient Mese road of Byzantium (At least IV. Century AD) to our lovely avenues Ordu and Divanyolu of Istanbul today.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Google Satellite:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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More Information,
 
google satellite, Istanbul>
 
 
 
 
Ancient map of Istanbul>
 
 
 
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And here's another view of Mese road and the ruins of forum theodosios:
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I would imagine that most old cities that were never completely destroyed still have a street plan that goes back a long time. I am sure that in Rome, many modern roads follow ancient routes. So for the oldest roads still in use, I would imagine you would have to go to the oldest city with continuous habitation...
 
You could also argue that in excavated cities, like Babylon, the roads are once again used...Smile
 
BTW, on that last picture, the pillars have a sort of inverted teardrop pattern... Is that original? It is quite neat... I've never seen such a pattern on an old pillar...

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Unfortunately many ancient cities are no longer populated today. Many of them are old ghost cities which are far away from their modern city centers. Ephesus, for instance, where is one of the most important ancient cities in Turkey.
 
But I agree with you on Rome. Our Italian forumers may help us about Rome.
 
 
 
 
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By the way, the pillars are orginal. Those patterns can be seen on many Byzantine architectures.

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..Hello everyone..

 

..in the UK,  there is a modern road called the A2 which runs from London to the Port of Dover on the south east coast....

 

......it was originally part of Watling Street, the name given to an ancient track system in England and Wales, which was apparently first used by the Celts mainly between the modern cities of Canterbury and St Albans......

 

....The Romans later paved the route, part of which has been identified on the ‘Antonine Itinerary as Inter III, or  "Item a Londinio ad portum Dubris" ....

... this road is still very much in use and when one travels on it, it is clear to see the Roman notion of building their roads ‘as the crow flies,’ it is still a 'straight' road practically all the way, except for minor modern diversions, but it has now been essentially 'bypassed' by the construction of the M2 motorway...

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^ i was under the impression that what was being discussed limited the scope to urban roads. If not watling street itself would be a candidate as it goes up the old A5.
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Originally posted by malizai_ malizai_ wrote:

^ i was under the impression that what was being discussed limited the scope to urban roads. If not watling street itself would be a candidate as it goes up the old A5.
 
..yep, sorry....i just thought of Watling Street and did not think any further than that!!..still, there are some parts of the road that could, at a stretch, still be considered 'urban', especially where the modern roads have forced a deviation from the original layout...it is possible, to 'step out' onto some old parts and be in what is essentially small 'streets' or walkways free from major traffic...but i take on board your point..
 
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And to answer the question
 
 
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Very good article indeed. Does anyone know If there's a continuity between Londonium and Today's London in terms of city planning?

There's also a historical city wall in London, which is new for me. Amazing.
 
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