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    Posted: 05-Aug-2006 at 12:27
I'll be leaving August 16 to go to East Turkistan. I'll be living there for a couple years teaching English. I'm going to be up in Karamay, East Turkistan, very close to Kazakistan and Mongolia. Because of Chinese internet censorship I might not be able to access this site much or at all so if I suddenly stop speaking in here, you know why. If you live in the country or in another country close by and think you might come visit one time, give me your e-mail address so we can meet and hang out. I'm planning on traveling a lot so I probably will be going to Kazakistan and Mongolia some time.
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Good luck, and safe journey.
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interesting, are you getting paid or are you going voluntarily? well good luck.

by the way, is the province in china actually called turkestan?
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no its called xianjiang
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what does zianjiang mean in chinese? does it mean turkestan in chinese?


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oh ok, so what is the real turkic name for the region, since turk/turkestan are perso-arabic words.
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dunno it was called alot of names  uigur khanat it was called last I think
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interesting, thanks for the information. anything else you want to tell me about the region?
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It's under chinese rule the people are being treatend poorley just like evry minority elsewere
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Originally posted by xi_tujue xi_tujue wrote:

It's under chinese rule the people are being treatend poorley just like evry minority elsewere


well, obviously i know that, what i meant was any more historical facts, cultural facts, etc...
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Feramez:

Have  a nice journey, and I hope you will be happy to stay there, but be very careful!
 
BTW, Sahpur (Mater blaster, Iranian4life) check it out yourself on the net, there is plenty of info. In iranian history, you can refer to the Ilkhanids.
 
 
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Originally posted by Shapur II Shapur II wrote:

interesting, are you getting paid or are you going voluntarily? well good luck.

by the way, is the province in china actually called turkestan?
I'm getting paid for this.
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Originally posted by barbar barbar wrote:

Feramez:

Have  a nice journey, and I hope you will be happy to stay there, but be very careful!
 
BTW, Sahpur (Mater blaster, Iranian4life) check it out yourself on the net, there is plenty of info. In iranian history, you can refer to the Ilkhanids.
 
 
Yea I know, many people are warning me to be careful since I am a Turk.
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Originally posted by Shapur II Shapur II wrote:

Originally posted by xi_tujue xi_tujue wrote:

It's under chinese rule the people are being treatend poorley just like evry minority elsewere


well, obviously i know that, what i meant was any more historical facts, cultural facts, etc...
Here's a little forum (http://groups.myspace.com/FreeEastTurkistan).  Check out the links here, there's a lot to look at, especially the videos.
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thank you very much, but why should you be afraid because you are turk? arent the people your going to teach also turkic?

or are you afraid of the chinese authorities?
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Well I'm not afraid, I fear nothing Cool.  I heard that when Turks enter East Turkistan with passports of their Turk nation that the Chinese police watch them, follow them, make sure they don't fill any ideas of independence or Turk unity into the heard of the Uygurs....as if the Uygurs already don't have these thoughts in their heads.  I'll be there with my American passport but sooner or later word will get around that a Turk is in town, so I'll just have to watch what I say and do, I really would not want to get any innocent Uygurs in trouble because of my presence there.  I assume I'll be teaching Uygurs, Kazaks, Mongols, Huis and Chinese, since these are the ethnic groups of the region I'll be living.
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Feramez, I envy you having this wonderful opportunity especially because you are not just there for a few months, but a few years. Instead of just being a passive observer of what's happening there, you can actually call this place "home" and be part of it.

My "word of wisdom" to you is: adopt an open-minded attitude towards everything you see there. Given your ethnic background, it is understandable that you have some pre-conceptions about what things should or should not be. That's fine. But all of us know that pre-conceptions can also affect how we view things, i.e. our objectivity - we begin actively seeking to see and hear things that we want to see and hear. Use this unique opportunity to widen your horizon, examine issues from different perspectives, dispel myths, find evidence, and then come to your own independent judgment and conclusion. Remember, things are never that clear-cut, never that black-and-white, and never that one-sided. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

And if you have a chance, don't forget to share with us some of your wonderful experience there!!!!

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Thats cool. I want to go too. LOL
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Right now a very great friend of mine is teaching English in Kyrghyzstan, now you are going to Turkistan (Xinjiang).  Central Asia is so my favorite place of Earth and you all make me jealous!
 
Nontheless, good luck, safe journey, and have a good time.  Fear nothing and no one and use this opporotunity to its maximum!
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