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    Posted: 22-Aug-2008 at 20:25
A writer friend sent me this:
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In a book, I have a math miletone titled "Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi
(c.
953)." This is at the top of the page.

The publisher says this title is unwieldy. Is there a way to shorten the
Arabic that makes good sense? For example, is "Al-Hisab al-Hindi" an
acceptable shorthand for the title? Any other suggestion?
 
As background, Al-Uqlidisi ("the Euclidian") was an Arab mathematician
whose Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi (The Book of Chapters on Hindu
Arithmetic) is the earliest known Arabic work discussing the positional use
of the Hindu-Arabic numerals,
 
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Books of these days always have a long title.

One thing for sure you can drop the al-kitab, the book. which would give: al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi. Can't say more for sure.

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It means something like "the book of maths and philosophy of India." Not completely sure, Al Jassas can give a better translation.

 

Al Hisab Al Hindi; "the maths of India" would not be good shorthand.

 

Believe it or not; Al-Qaeda; the digest; would be the best short hand.

Which is infact what school books are called. Even here. LOTS of newspaper jokes on that one.

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Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi

You may translate it in two ways

Kitab (book) al-fusul (seasons,periods, terms) fi (in) al-Hisab (math, calculation) Al-Hindi (Indian)

1- the Book of seasons in Indian Math

If Al-hindi is the writer's name then it will be.

2- the book of seasons in Math by Al-Hindi

Al-jassas may correct us.

The best complete answer is al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi.



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Hello to you all
 
Well, the book's correct translations is "Chapters in Indian arithmatics". It is mainly concerned with the Indian school of arithmatic, which includes negative numbers and the use of a kind of decimal system. This book probably did introduce the hindu-arabic numerals though I still believe, as some other historians, that these numerals first appeared in merchant books then were used by mathematicians.
 
Al-Iqlidisi, of Euclide, was a Syrian scholar who lived in Damascus and died there in 952 AD. He was called Euclide because he taugh, copied and sold "the elements". This is the first time I heard about the guy, I will try to look for the book to know more but I think it was already published.
 
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Second Al Jassas & Suren.
 
I was going to suggest "Terms in Indian Mathematics" as a good title.
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Thanks everyone. I've passed the information on.
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Quote As background, Al-Uqlidisi ("the Euclidian") was an Arab mathematician
whose Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi (The Book of Chapters on Hindu
Arithmetic) is the earliest known Arabic work discussing the positional use
of the Hindu-Arabic numerals

Of course not the earliest one, about two centuries after Khwarizmi's "Kitab al-Jam'a wal-Tafreeq bil Hisab al-Hindi", "Al-Maqala fi Hisab-al Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah" (Algebra), ...
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