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Dolphin ![]() Arch Duke ![]() ![]() Níl a fhios agam cad ata ag tharlu Joined: 06-Feb-2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1554 |
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Hi Ahmed,
It really boils down to personal liberty here. Nobody forces you to gamble or take part in the national lottery. So, as long as your actions are not directly detrimental to others, I think it is justified. Saying that, I don't gamble at all, but I still don't think it is sinful to do so..
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eaglecap ![]() Tsar ![]() ![]() Joined: 15-Feb-2005 Location: DesertSouthwest Status: Offline Points: 3264 |
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It depends on how you define sin. I know gambling can sometimes bring in the evil element of society which can include prostitution, organized crime, drug and alcohol abuse, and many other ills, such as, addictions to gambling itself. But, we all have a free will to choose and other than the state lotto once in a while I do not gamble with money.
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eaglecap ![]() Tsar ![]() ![]() Joined: 15-Feb-2005 Location: DesertSouthwest Status: Offline Points: 3264 |
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I guess I dun sinned
Went to the Coeur d' Alene casino last friday with some friends and played the old slots. All you can eat buffee sea food- yum!! |
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gcle2003 ![]() Immortal Guard ![]() ![]() Joined: 06-Dec-2004 Location: Luxembourg Status: Offline Points: 7011 |
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The Koranic position is somewhat complicated. To invest money to get a secure return (as in putting money on deposit in an interest-bearing account) is sinful, as usury.
A business enterprise is only permissible if there is an element of risk. Therefore buying shares in IBM is OK (or even Enron :-( ) because they may go up or down.
This very much affects where Islamic-licensed insurance companies can invest their premiums, and also the type of policies they may sell.
The whole subject is however very complex, as you can gather from http://www.islamicnetwork.com/index.php/weblog/comments/the_islamic_verdict_on_insurance/
(and i've no doubt people will contest that
![]() Irresponsible gambling however is seen as sinful. Edited by gcle2003 - 09-Jan-2008 at 20:31 |
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Brian J Checco ![]() General ![]() ![]() Eli Manning Joined: 30-Jan-2007 Status: Offline Points: 926 |
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I find some measure of ridiculousness in proscribing something because "one may be tempted to do wrong," as per hugo's comment. Every single thing in the world has the potential to be overdone; should we condemn eating as a sin, and legislate against it, because one may become obese? Should we outlaw alcohol because some certain few may become alcoholics? I mean, honestly, allow people to make their own choices- if they screw up, they screw up, but don't spoil it for everyone. The majority of gamblers are responsible, just as the majority of drinkers are not alcoholics, and the majority of eaters (i.e. everyone) are not chronically obese. It's all up to the individual.
But the paternal "you may be tempted so don't even try it" malarky is unfair, repressive even, to the vast majority. |
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