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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nova roma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jan-2009 at 05:48
I would like to know how accurate the new Tom Cruse movie, Valkrie, really is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jan-2009 at 06:07
Originally posted by Jams Jams wrote:

Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Apocalipto.

Agreed. So much potential for a great story, yet it was made into some personal statement from MG - not that such a thing is necessarily a bad thing, but there is a huge potential for an accurate Mayan inspired movie in a historical context. Now nobody want to finance a movie about the Maya.

The reason why I think it is a particularly bad example of a "historical" movie, is because the advertising made it out to be an fairly accurate movie, with reconstructed cities and true Mayan language and such. He should have made the movie in English, because it is just an action movie with a weak "noble savage" message.

 

Such a pity. I would have liked a movie about the rivalry between the Mayan cities like Tikal and Calakmul, and the betrayal involved. The fact that Apocalypto came out in the period where so much new written info was found, and so much new info about the rivalry and wars, makes it even more awful to me.
 
What a pity.

I don't know about if this criticism is really accurate. Everything portrayed in Apocalypto is relatively plausible, except of course for the apparent luck of the hero. I'll make my usual challenge here and ask if you can point out even a single historical flaw (not choice of focus, but an actual detail that's wrong). I've made this with others numerous times, and so far, nobody's been able to name one. There are one or two, mainly the arrival of the Spanish is a little difficult to reconcile with what appears to be an Itza or Mayapan centre, since both of these groups had abandoned their urban centres before the Spanish arrival - but that's about all I can think of.

One may criticize its focus - what it chose to portray - but it's pretty difficult to find anything at all in the movie that's actually inaccurate. And saying that the movie ought to have portrayed this or that aspect, well that just isn't really fair. The creators are free to examine whatever aspect they like.

As far as the noble savage idea, I don't really see it. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with what the term "noble savage" means ... it was an idea that native American societies were uncorrupted by the decadent influences of civilization and had an essentially good, generous, innocent, guileless nature. I really didn't see this sort of philosophy at work in Apocalypto at all! The villagers in the first part of the movie were ready to kill interlopers to ensure control of their hunting grounds, and likewise the urbanized group was anything but innocent and uncorrupted.



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Originally posted by Gargoyle Gargoyle wrote:


Every film about 17th and 18th century Pirates!!!

 
Or very American film that deals with World War 2 and the part that America played in it.
The list is endless !
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O yes! WW II and John Wayne .

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carcharodon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-May-2009 at 19:12

From 300: THIS IS SPARTA, famous scene

 
A musical parody of the scene:
 
 
 
 
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