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    Posted: 29-Aug-2006 at 21:15
In the southern Balkans there is a "neo-latin" speaking population: the Vlachs.  They live scattered in an area from Albania, Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria to European Turkey.  The Vlachs never created a national state, but there was a small "Principate of Pindus" (under the Vlach fascist A. Diamantis) in the italian occupied northern Greece during WWII.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Aug-2006 at 22:50
Yes, there are also some Vlachs in Serbia. I beleive there is some 30, 000? Anyways, here is my contribution to this thread:

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Yes, in Serbia live some Vlachs related to the Romanian people.  The Wikipedia divides the Vlachs (or descendants of the Romanized populations of the Balkan peninsula) in northern Vlachs (Romanian) and southern Vlachs ( the "real" Vlachs , who live mainly in Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria and Greece).
Usually the Vlach language is related to the southern Vlachs.
So, those living in Serbia (mainly in the Banat Voivodina and south of the Iron Gates) are considered Romanian.
There is a small difference between the Romanian and the Vlach language , similar to the linguistic differences between Croatian and Serbian, or Italian and Spanish.
The number of the Vlachs are diminishing and the European Union is creating legislation in their favor.
I have found some maps of the Vlachs (Aromanians, Megleno and Istro) but no one related to the only small political entity of these people: the "Principate of Pindus" (1941-1944).HugI hope someone in the Forum can help.

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The above map shows the Vlach population (majority and minority) in the border areas between Albania, Greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria. The map was done with ethnic data of 1913 and was used to promote a possible (but never created) State of the Vlachs at the Conference of Paris in 1919 for the "Treaty of Versailles".

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yes, Jay , to be precise in Serbia there are two areas of Vlachs population (but should be called Romanians) and I have found some maps of these areas: Voivodina and central-eastern Serbia.
 MAPS of Vlachs/Romanians in Voivodina (in 1910 and in 1991) and in Central-eastern Serbia. 

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This map of 1991 shows the reduction of the Romanian population in central-eastern Serbia, in comparison to the first map of the area that I have posted (and that was done before WWII).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Sep-2006 at 04:56
Originally posted by brunodam brunodam wrote:

In the southern Balkans there is a "neo-latin" speaking population: the Vlachs.  They live scattered in an area from Albania, Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria to European Turkey.  The Vlachs never created a national state, but there was a small "Principate of Pindus" (under the Vlach fascist A. Diamantis) in the italian occupied northern Greece during WWII.
 

The first  as you said suitor was Italy, who in 1917 took over Epirus for a while and declare for the first the ‘Principate of Pindos’, hailing the Vlachs as ‘lost brothers’. This act was repeated in 1942. Alkiviadis Diamantis, who was from Samarina and lived in Romania, appeared as the ‘prince of Pindos’. Accompanied by Italian soldiers and not from the Vlachs  he declared at a time of famine during the World War II, that Romania was sending a shipment of a million okades of wheat for distribution only to Vlachs. Although the wheat did not arrive, the police(control by the Italians)  confiscated flour that people bought for their homes, creating strong remonstrance and accusations that Greece was trying to kill off the Vlachs. Of course Greek Vlachs ignored the fascist propaganda during the Axis ocupation.



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"Most important settlements of the Aromanians in Albania"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2006 at 22:35
In Wikipedia is possible to find extensive articles on Diamantis and his Principality of Pindus.
The Italians favored the creation of the Albanian state before WWI (as can be seen from the map of 1913 below, showing that Albania was not expected to exist) and enlarged Albania to Epirus and Kosovo during WWII. 
They repeated the tentative of creation of a new Balkan state with the Principality of Pindus for the Vlach people.
 

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Yes, Bruno, there was a little "Principality of Pindus" in the mountains between Epirus, Macedonia and Tessalia during the italian occupation of Greece in WWII, but I cannot find any map about.
Anyway, I have found this map from the "Library of the Congress" in Washington/USA related to the tentative of the Vlachs to create a small State in 1919, during the conference of peace in Paris.
It is not the area originally proposed by Italy and France around Korce in Albania, but it shows a little mountanous region that was promoted in the Pindus mountains by the Romanians as a possible autoctonous Vlach State after WWI.
I guess that A. Diamantis may have used this map for his small Principality of Pindus in 1941.  Maria D.    
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