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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 10:13

Yes All those name are recognized. Turkish people of Turkey must be lead by ottomans. may ottoman not be friend with israel. Long Live PM of Turkey.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 11:36
Originally posted by MythTR MythTR wrote:

Hazaras are Turkish People, and Hazar Country (HAZAR DEVLETI) is the most lifely country. I meant that : There were a lot of Turkish people like huns, uygurs, göktürks etc.. but Hazars are most long lived.

You can see it from here, I think you will understand more clearly . Thank you!
 
büyük hun imparatorluğu
batı hun imparatorluğu
avrupa hun imparatorluğu
ak hun imparatorluğu
göktürk imparatorluğu
avar imparatorluğu
hazar imparatorluğu
uygur devleti
karahanlılar
gazneliler
büyük selçuk imparatorluğu
harzemşahlar
altınordu devleti
büyük timur imparatorluğu
babür imparatorluğu
osmanlı imparatorluğu (ottoman)
 
the names are Turkish, but you can understand.
 
Hazara of Afganistan aren't the same with the Ancient Khazars of Eastern Europe.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 11:40
Originally posted by jankhan jankhan wrote:

Yes All those name are recognized. Turkish people of Turkey must be lead by ottomans. may ottoman not be friend with israel. Long Live PM of Turkey.

 
Jankhan, this is a historical thread, and not the place for disseminating political propaganda.
 
If you want to discuss Turkish-Israeli relations, please next time post in "Current Affairs" or "The Minefield" subforum.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 11:49
Sorry sarmat i just wanted to honor your leader.... other wise what am i gonna do with turkish current affairs.... long live history forum...
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Hazara of Afganistan aren't the same with the Ancient Khazars of Eastern Europe.
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    ofcourse hazara aren't same with khazars of eastern Europe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 12:12

I m Hazara. Some people say hazara are mongol some say relative to uyghur. but i don't agree with that concepts, hazara is hazara. don't have long history we are new in this world. what ever our anncestors were we are not we are only hazara.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 12:16
whatever i said did you named it politacal propaganda? as if it hurted you sorry man/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 12:26

Berar! Of course Hazaras are Hazaras and I'm glad you think that way, but we belong to a bigger group called Altaic race. Technically, Hazara isn't even a tribe. Its a unity of many tribes. We have over 20 different tribes who belong to this unity. We are Turk and Mongol, mixed, and thats important to us. If you take our religion and our idenity, we simply don't exist. So let's stick to it like we've always been brother!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 14:23
Originally posted by jankhan jankhan wrote:

whatever i said did you named it politacal propaganda? as if it hurted you sorry man/
 
You didn't hurt me. You hurt the rules of the forum. Just follow the rules. And there won't be any problems.
 
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Heyyy, I didn't say Hazara is a combinated people with other neighbrood people. Certainly Hazara is Hazara , It is different. I meant that Hazara's genealogical tree same with us. We are Turks and I wrote the other government which were created by Turk blood and Hazara is one of them. One user said Turk Mongol mixed but I don't agree with him/her. Because the last resarchments say Turks and Mongols are not mixed and same only some of great leaders of Mongols have got Turk blood. I don't doing nationalism (: Really trust me. I only want to say the truth as I know. Again and again I am telling the truths as I know and If you think that I am wrong please comment it.
 
I hope you understand my English, it is not good (:
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 18:49
well, in this thread we are talking about Hazaras of Afghanistan, NOT about historical Khazars (Hazara) Empire north of Caucasus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 04:53

Hello Great Kushan, Naimani, Jan Khan and other friends. I haven't been here for a long time. It's really nice to see this conversation still going on.

I also enjoyed pictures showing Hazara Yurts (which I can't distinguish from a Turkmen Yurt!).

Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 05:39
Originally posted by MythTR MythTR wrote:

Heyyy, I didn't say Hazara is a combinated people with other neighbrood people. Certainly Hazara is Hazara , It is different. I meant that Hazara's genealogical tree same with us. We are Turks and I wrote the other government which were created by Turk blood and Hazara is one of them. One user said Turk Mongol mixed but I don't agree with him/her. Because the last resarchments say Turks and Mongols are not mixed and same only some of great leaders of Mongols have got Turk blood. I don't doing nationalism (: Really trust me. I only want to say the truth as I know. Again and again I am telling the truths as I know and If you think that I am wrong please comment it.
 
I hope you understand my English, it is not good (:
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 06:09
Good to hear that MythTR. I actually don't have much information about history of Turks and central Asia. But where ever i see them looks not deferent to us, that makes us feel better to know that we are lost brothers of some other groups. that is also important to know for me that how many other groups are there like hazara people who don't know about us and we don't know about them. If all of turks and central asians want to be united what will be our center?
 
thanks for your reply. no worries my english is not too good aswell. haha
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Donetsk.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 16:54
Originally posted by jankhan jankhan wrote:

Good to hear that MythTR. I actually don't have much information about history of Turks and central Asia. But where ever i see them looks not deferent to us, that makes us feel better to know that we are lost brothers of some other groups. that is also important to know for me that how many other groups are there like hazara people who don't know about us and we don't know about them. If all of turks and central asians want to be united what will be our center?
 
thanks for your reply. no worries my english is not too good aswell. haha
 
Thank's for your comment. I colored the important sentence. I don't know wheater you know (or not) This is "Turan" which means that All Turk United. And I think if one day it will be come true, the center will be İstanbul(not constantinapole) or Ötüken, or around them. Thank you again for your comment.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 23:02
otuken? that is funny. I insist at Donetsk. That stupid dream can at least finish with most beatiful girls of world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2009 at 23:22
What Donetsk mainly inhabitted by conservative Russian residents has to do with Panturkism?
 
But, anyway, this thread is about Hazaras please stick to the topic gens.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2009 at 00:23
I thought Donetsk was in Ukraine, they beat Tottenham today Big smile

And Otuken was a region not a city, today its located between Mongolia and Tuva so it wouldn't be an ideal capital being too far East.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2009 at 02:14
Although it's in Ukraine most of the people there are Russians. Smile
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