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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2008 at 05:47
Both Shia and Sunni are Muslims and adherents of "Islamic faith." Yes, encouragement to study the history is the good advice. Ethnic conflicts and misunderstandings happen exactly because people are reluctant to study from their own history.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jun-2008 at 17:12
Originally posted by Sukhbaatar Sukhbaatar wrote:

Very well
 
To answer your query - there's different sects of Islam, Hazaras are Shi'a, Pashtuns are not - and I encourage the readers to study into Hazara/Pashtun history as well.
 
This is not true.  There are Pashtun tribes that are Shia.  They live in the NWFP and Quetta mostly.  I believe it is the tribes of Tori and Bangash but I could be wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2009 at 02:35
hi Naimani im jan.. You seem to have alot of information about aghanistan and hazara history thats good. here u can see an old picture of a hazara family taken may be in 1878.
http://www.tagged.com/photo_view.html?photoId=95203528&uid=213370885
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2009 at 05:19
Thanks bro. By the way, it would be great if you can post more photos like that one. Its beautiful, you can see their tents in the background.
 
Here are some more pics of Hazara tents
 


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thanks for that. do u know where these pics or taken from?
      
 this another old pic by the time of panjdhe crisis on our nation when british where pushing the pushthoons into afghanistan to destroy hazara. my be its also  from 1878-1890.
 
  this one is the oldest pic of hazara tribe i have found. looks like painting but it was taken with a old camera
 
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Awesome! Thanks a lot berar jo.
 
The pics I posted were all taken in Bamiyan and Yakawlang in different times. Are you from Sydney khel?
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Hello. I`m mongolian. i think It`s not a pan turk. it`s pan HUN. Mongols Turkic people all is a GREAT HUN`S posterity. WE ARE ALL IS BROTHERHOOD. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2009 at 13:02
Originally posted by TAMER LANE TAMER LANE wrote:

Hello. I`m mongolian. i think It`s not a pan turk. it`s pan HUN. Mongols Turkic people all is a GREAT HUN`S posterity. WE ARE ALL IS BROTHERHOOD. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2009 at 11:18
Hazara mongol or turk won't make any claim for Turks on lands of Iranian people in the future.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2009 at 11:40
Yes TAMER LANE, we are all brothers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2009 at 21:38
Originally posted by Naimani Naimani wrote:

Thanks bro. By the way, it would be great if you can post more photos like that one. Its beautiful, you can see their tents in the background.
 
Here are some more pics of Hazara tents
 
 
 
These are not Hazara tents.  These are Turcoman and Aimaq tents in Hazarajat.  They used to migrated to Hazarajat and build their yurts.  I'm not sure if they still do this anymore in Hazarajat.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2009 at 22:24

I think others know more about Hazaras than you, so there is no need for your concern Afghanan. Besides Hazara is made up of more than 40 tribes, including Turkoman and Aimag. There is no such thing as a Hazara tribe, its a confederation of many Altaic tribes. You will make more sense if you learn before you talk.

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First off,   its Hazaras that are making pictures of "Ancient" Hazaras who created the Buddhas of Bamian when it is well known that they had nothing to do with it. 

2nd of all, Aimaq and Turcomans do not consider themselves Hazara.  THey do not even speak Hazaragi Farsi.  Most Hazaras in Afghanistan are Shia, Turcomans and Aimaq are Sunnis. 
 
Those pictures you posted are over 20 years old, and from a time when Aimaq and Turcoman nomads travelled to Bamian and setup their Yurts. 
 
I'm not against Hazaras, but at least don't throw out inaccuracies about the Hazaras.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2009 at 04:41
Dear participants of the thread,
 
Please allow me to make a reminder about All Empires Code of Conduct. According to it, ethnic thrive and wars are not allowed on this forum.
 
Nothing serious has happened here yet. But I, as a moderator, just want to prevent any possible problems in this regard in the future.
 
Please remain respectful to each other and continue friendly discussion.
 
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Dear participants of the thread,
 
Please allow me to make a reminder about All Empires Code of Conduct. According to it, ethnic thrive and wars are not allowed on this forum.
 
Nothing serious has happened here yet. But I, as a moderator, just want to prevent any possible problems in this regard in the future.
 
Please remain respectful to each other and continue friendly discussion.
 
Thank you !
 
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Yeah brother we are all brothers doesn't matter shia or sunni, hazara or non hazara. our faces feature and body structure proves that we are brother with all central asians. and we dream of family reunion. Inshalla.
 
 
My introduction: I m Jan and I am from Ghazni Provence. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2009 at 06:17

Firstly, Hazaras are Shia, Sunni and Ismaili Muslims, not just Shia.

Secondly, there are two Turkoman tribes in Afghanistan. Turkomans who reside on the Turkoman mountain in Hazarajat belong to Hazara. They live very close to Qul Khesh and Besud Hazaras. The non-Hazara Turkomans are the one who live up north in Khinjan and around Mazar-e-Sharif.
 
Wherever I find wrong info about my people, I will be there to correct it. I wouldn't give you wrong information about my people, Afghanan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Feb-2009 at 20:55

Hazaras are Turkish People, and Hazar Country (HAZAR DEVLETI) is the most lifely country. I meant that : There were a lot of Turkish people like huns, uygurs, göktürks etc.. but Hazars are most long lived.

You can see it from here, I think you will understand more clearly . Thank you!
 
büyük hun imparatorluğu
batı hun imparatorluğu
avrupa hun imparatorluğu
ak hun imparatorluğu
göktürk imparatorluğu
avar imparatorluğu
hazar imparatorluğu
uygur devleti
karahanlılar
gazneliler
büyük selçuk imparatorluğu
harzemşahlar
altınordu devleti
büyük timur imparatorluğu
babür imparatorluğu
osmanlı imparatorluğu (ottoman)
 
the names are Turkish, but you can understand.
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