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    Posted: 30-May-2009 at 10:35
Probably the fastest delivery of "justice" ever.
 
On May 28th, a suicide bomb took the lives of 19 people in Zahedan.
 
 
By May 30th, The "terrorist" were, interogated, tried, convicted, went to appeal, their appeal was turned down, went to Nejad who signed the dicision and finally executed.
 
 
God save Iranian Justice!
 
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Indeed. The judicial system isn't the problem, it's the laws. Of course bombings are illegal in most countries, so the judicial system's effectiveness was allowed to work for a just cause.
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Obviously you didn't understand my sarcasm.
 
Even Khalkhali wasn't that swift in applying "justice".
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I know how it works in these cases.  The intelligence services know who a good number of the terrorists and sympathisers, but leave them be in case they lead them to other sources.   But when a bomb like this goes of, regardless of whether they were directly responsible or not they are speed tried like this to show for a speedy delivery of justice.

OR more likely (from your own link):

"Fars news agency quoted witnesses saying the incident had been a suicide attack, and that a second bomb had been defused near the mosque. The reports could not be verified."

If it was a human bomb -in the Wahhabi tradition*- that was defused then obviously the guilty will very easily be brought to justice.

*which is spreading like a disease among uneducated and deprived Sunnis (Afgh, Baluchistan, Pakistani rural areas)

Iranian/Afghan Baluchi drug smuggling bandits cum terrorists = American and Saudi funded and facilitated (perhaps this is why you're so upset?). VoA even interviewed their thug leader Regi (whose ideals of freedom include the decapitation of one's own relatives) as a freedom fighter a year or two ago - lol.  Just how they would know where to find him says enough in itself. 

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That's what it is Salafis terrorists and their sympathizers has no place in Iran they will be kick out to their motherland.
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To all fellow muslims!
Please stop dividing Islam in sects and fractions, I don't call any of it better than the other and ask for a mutual understanding of each others believes and ways of implementation of religion.
I think the topic is about the fast Justic system not a sect of Islam, so I guess we do have many more thing to figure out rather than blaming it on sects of a religion, if you are doing so then what's the difference between you all and the west who also blame the entire problems of the world on religions.
 


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Guilty or innocent, some poor Sunnis were publicly executed to deter others.

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Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Cyrus Shahmiri wrote:

Guilty or innocent, some poor Sunnis were publicly executed to deter others.

If they are guilty then they deserve it, what about the poor people blown to pieces at the mosque? What about their families?   

People who cut off their nose to spite their own face are a disgrace.  This is true of any Iranian, Afghan, Pakistani, Lebanese or anyone else who blows up their own countrymen because of the hate and greed of desert savages and their imperialist "divide and conquer" masters.  It is obvious who these masters of the Wahhabi movement are from their terror targets, or those not among them.
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There is a minimum amount of justice and these guys received none.

 
Even Juhaiman, caught by all Cameras in the world going into the Grand mosque of Mecca guns blazing got his day in court (2 weeks actually), went through appeal and was only then executed 2 months after the incident.
 
Tell me, where is justice here? where is the proof that these guys were involved (and they might have been involved)? Where are the trial records? Why hasn't other people involved in similar crimes been executed so swiftly and some even got away not two weeks ago (Ms Saberi)?
 
Saddam never did a thing like this, he always made sure that there was a trial, a show one to his political opponents (if there was no war) with counsel and all.
 
What happened here is that the regime of the mullahs sank to a place that is even below the level Saddam was at. And all of this to win elections.
 
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

If they are guilty then they deserve it, what about the poor people blown to pieces at the mosque? What about their families?   

People who cut off their nose to spite their own face are a disgrace.  This is true of any Iranian, Afghan, Pakistani, Lebanese or anyone else who blows up their own countrymen because of the hate and greed of desert savages and their imperialist "divide and conquer" masters.  It is obvious who these masters of the Wahhabi movement are from their terror targets, or those not among them.
 
The situation is similar to that in Israel and terror attacks of Palestinians, do Sunni Muslims of Baluchestan deserve to be oppressed by the Iranian government and live in the worst conditions in the whole Iran?!
 
Schools of Baluchestan province of Iran:
 
 

 


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Cyrus, Baluchistan area considers poor area, and the picture you post here does not represent Baluchistan classrooms as well; if you go to central Iran in some villages you may find even worse than that. If you are justifying those terrorist action because of their poor region then your 100% wrong. They can have a political party and help their people more instead of blowing mosque and causing more misery for their countrymen.  

There is no sympathy for Terrorists. This Junullah group are bunch of thrives, drug smugglers and kidnappers which has been hired to destabilize Baluchistan. They are not our innocent Sunni countrymen. I read today they have been caught for last suicide attack when they have been smuggling ammunition for explosion and already confessed. Mullahs executed them to please the victims families and people.

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I never support terrorists, you know my position towards Palestinians and other terrorist groups like Hezbollah, but I believe there should be a reason for these terrorist attacks, last month three young men were executed for bombing a mosque in Shiraz: Iran hangs three for Shiraz mosque bombing, non of them were Sunni (they were the members monarchist opposition group), but Sunni groups calimed bombing of this mosque too: Sunni group claims bombing of Iran mosque
 
DUBAI (Reuters) - A little-known Iranian Sunni dissident group says it was behind a deadly mosque bombing in southern Iran, which Tehran blames on the United States, Britain, and Israel, according to an Internet statement.

"This is the very first operation and the signal to the criminal (Shi'ite) regime of Iran ... to stop its oppression, cruelty and injustice towards ... Sunnis," the Jihadi Movement of the Sunna People of Iran said.

The group said it carried out the attack, which killed 14 people in the southern city of Shiraz in April, to avenge what it said was the execution of two Sunni scholars in Iran's poor southeastern region, home to mostly Sunni ethnic Baluchis.
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

There is a minimum amount of justice and these guys received none.

 
Even Juhaiman, caught by all Cameras in the world going into the Grand mosque of Mecca guns blazing got his day in court (2 weeks actually), went through appeal and was only then executed 2 months after the incident.
 
Tell me, where is justice here? where is the proof that these guys were involved (and they might have been involved)? Where are the trial records? Why hasn't other people involved in similar crimes been executed so swiftly and some even got away not two weeks ago (Ms Saberi)?
 
Saddam never did a thing like this, he always made sure that there was a trial, a show one to his political opponents (if there was no war) with counsel and all.
 
What happened here is that the regime of the mullahs sank to a place that is even below the level Saddam was at. And all of this to win elections.
 
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

I know how it works in these cases.  The intelligence services know who a good number of the terrorists and sympathisers, but leave them be in case they lead them to other sources.   But when a bomb like this goes of, regardless of whether they were directly responsible or not they are speed tried like this to show for a speedy delivery of justice.

OR more likely (from your own link):

"Fars news agency quoted witnesses saying the incident had been a suicide attack, and that a second bomb had been defused near the mosque. The reports could not be verified."

If it was a human bomb -in the Wahhabi tradition*- that was defused then obviously the guilty will very easily be brought to justice.


SO how fair was the trial of the people of Halabje? or the hundreds of Barzani Kurds murdered by Saddam for simply having that surname?  The thousands of Marsh Arabs whose mass graves continue to be found to this day?

Men, women AND children - no distinction made, no trial - nothing.

If fair trials are your thing then you shouldn't be looking at the middle east or making silly comparisons bewteen bad (mullahs) and worse (Saddam). 



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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

Cyrus, Baluchistan area considers poor area, and the picture you post here does not represent Baluchistan classrooms as well; if you go to central Iran in some villages you may find even worse than that. If you are justifying those terrorist action because of their poor region then your 100% wrong. They can have a political party and help their people more instead of blowing mosque and causing more misery for their countrymen.  

There is no sympathy for Terrorists. This Junullah group are bunch of thrives, drug smugglers and kidnappers which has been hired to destabilize Baluchistan. They are not our innocent Sunni countrymen. I read today they have been caught for last suicide attack when they have been smuggling ammunition for explosion and already confessed. Mullahs executed them to please the victims families and people.

This is exactly true and there is a huge difference between the Palestinians and Hezbollah vs Jundallah - Jundallah blow people up because they are paid and encouraged to do it by foreigners and the others do it because, simply put, their lands have been stolen or they have been subjected to brutal occupations.  

And the biggest difference between fanatical shias and fanatical wahhabis is that the former wants to convert all sunnis and the latter wants to kill all shias/infidels.
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The reason can be that Sunnis respect the four Caliphs (Rahisdun) but Shias hate the first three ones but worship the last one, you certainly know about Umar Koshon (Killing Umar) Ceremony of Shias: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEBiMDjJC0k as you hear they say "Barakallah Abu Lulu" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu-Lu'lu'ah "Sunni's (Muslims) hate Abu Lulu very much. He is reffered to as a dog by the Sunnis because he assasinated one of the Prophet Muhammad's favorite companion."

You have right to have your own beliefs but not to insult others' beliefs.
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Wow, this happened on Friday??? Who is this Lulu baba?
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The result of an unjust trial, Sunnis took to the streets: http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSDAH145824

Five people die in unrest in Iran city
TEHRAN, June 1 (Reuters) - At least five people were killed and dozens wounded during unrest in Iran's southeastern city of Zahedan following a mosque bombing that killed 25 people there last week, Iran's Press TV reported on Monday.

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You may call it sarkoub.
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Hello Suren
 
I think you know exactly the difference between war (like what happened in Halabjah and the marshes) and normal peace time opression. By the way, the Barzanis were tried in a show trial too and were killed in Salman near the Saudi border. Zahedan isn't a war zone, at least before the riots, and Iran claims to be a state of law and orders. What happened is far from being law and order.
 
As for sunni-shia problems, well while it does play a part in the mullah regime attitude it is not the only one. Khuzestan has a majority shia arab population and here Nejad won the most votes from any other province and you have probably the most committed people to the revolution than any place in Iran yet the people have been living in hell since he came. All arabic newspapers were closed, many intellectuals even pro-government people like Bani-Torof were jailed, a degradation of services like no other and the only province that is poorer is Baluchistan despite 60% of Iran's oil is from there. Again these are shia not sunni.
 
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Baluchi are mainly sunni
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