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    Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 19:11
This thread is just for fun. Any questions about the real meaning of the word, you are welcome to ask.
 
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Gringo (feminine, gringa) is a Spanish and Portuguese word used in Latin America to generally denote people from the United States, but in some cases it is also used to denote foreign non-native speakers of Spanish (physical appearance i.e. race often plays a role), usually from northern Europe or Canada--especially English-speakers.[1] Anglophones may consider the word pejorative, and dictionaries such as the American Heritage Dictionary classify gringo as "offensive slang," "usually disparaging," and "often disparaging."[2] However, Hispanophones disagree on whether or not gringo is derogatory; it is not considered as such by the authoritative Diccionario de la lengua española de la Real Academia Española.
 
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Nope. It is from wikipedia. The newspaper is real, and it is published in Mexico and the U.S. Take a look:
 
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I have heard that Gringo appeared as a word in central america during the Spannish - American war, when people were unpleased by the US occupation and whenever they saw an american soldier they said "Green go" (because of the green uniforms).


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American uniforms were blue back then
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Originally posted by Flipper Flipper wrote:

I have heard that Gringo appeared as a word in central america during the Spannish - American war, when people were unpleased by the US occupation and whenever they saw an american soldier they said "Green go" (because of the green uniforms).
 
I heard the Dagos adopted the term because the song the US army bands played on the march was "Green Grow the Rushes".
 
 
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I do not know how valid it is but I once heard that a Colonel Green was ahead of the Mexican invasion so the Mexicans started to yell Green go home which turned to gringo.
We were called that a few times while in the Sinaloa, Mexico.

Maybe someone can look that up because I am ...



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How many gringos live in Mexico? Anyone knows? I read someplace there were circa one million Americans that moved there to live.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

How many gringos live in Mexico? Anyone knows? I read someplace there were circa one million Americans that moved there to live.



I think many of them are retirees because it is so cheap to buy a home in Mexico compared to the USA or Canada.
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I lived and worked in Mexico, at the U.S. embassy near the Angel de la Independencia, from 1995 to 1997. The answer at that time was: "Over 1 million North Americans". That number included Canadians. It was a difficult number to capture because many North Americans who live in Mexico split their time between Mexico, and their place of origin. At the time, that was 1 million out of Mexico's estimated 89 million. I'm sure the Regional Security Officer has more updated figures.  
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Interesting. I didn´t see your post before. Do you have figures about how many Americans live in Latin America as a whole? In my country there are quite a few.
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Originally posted by Flipper Flipper wrote:

I have heard that Gringo appeared as a word in central america during the Spannish - American war, when people were unpleased by the US occupation and whenever they saw an american soldier they said "Green go" (because of the green uniforms).


I have heard this story in the context of the Mexican American war. The problem with the Mexican American war is that the uniforms were not green, they were blue.

Besides, the word is also used in Argentina for English people. :)

It is comes from the word, griego, or Greek. The whole point is that you can't understand them; they are speaking Greek.

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Gringo has the same idea of the original word "spic", when it wasn't an insult. Spanish speakers have a problem to pronounce "Speak", that for english speakers sounds somthing like "speek", and that was the origin of that slur. It only meant people who said "I don't spic English". 
 
In the same sense, Gringo in Spanish (pronounced Green-Gow) sounds like a Texan cowboy speaking english to Spanish ears: strange. Besides, the archetype of a strange sounding language in Spanish is greek, and there are several sayings that describe that language as weirdly pronounced. So the derivation of "green-gow" from "greek" seems likely.
 
 
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My point wasn't made correctly.

The word wasn't created in Mexico. It was created in Spain. No green uniforms; no green grow the trees; no Texan sluring words :P

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Nice to see that the wikipedia article references the Academia Real as the final authority for the Spanish language. However the article state that the term is not insulting. Yet teh entry for "gringo" in the very same dictionary classifies it as "familiar, despectivo". i.e., deprecating, insulting. "Green grow the violets" was the most popular marching song in the Mexican-American War, but it appears to be mere coincidence. I would have loved to check my dictionary of "mejicanismos", but to my great shock, I have just discovered that I donated it to a library. CrySo I have no idea if they define it differently, or at all.
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Flipper, the Spanish-American war was fought in Cuba, with secondary campaigns in Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Central America was already independent.
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This comes from the official dictionary of the Spanish language. The RAE dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy of the Spanish language. 
 
 
Notice the meaning number 7. It says, language that's impossible to understand.
 

gringo, ga.

(Etim. disc.).

1. adj. coloq. Extranjero, especialmente de habla inglesa, y en general hablante de una lengua que no sea la española. U. t. c. s.

 
(Foreigner, particularly english speaker and in general a speaker of a non-spanish language)
 
 
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una lengua: extranjera. U. t. c. s. m.
 
(Foreign language)

3. adj. Am. Mer., Cuba, El Salv., Hond. y Nic. estadounidense. Apl. a pers., u. t. c. s.

 
(American)
 
4. adj. Ur. inglés (natural de Inglaterra). U. t. c. s.
 
(British)

5. adj. Ur. ruso (natural de Rusia). U. t. c. s.

 
(Russian)
 
 
6. m. y f. Bol., Hond., Nic. y Perú. Persona rubia y de tez blanca.
 
(blond pale person)

7. m. coloq. Lenguaje ininteligible.

(Ackward language; perhaps "Greek")



Edited by pinguin - 02-May-2009 at 03:53
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Here is a Native American girl that are not espcially fond of gringos or whites. This girl makes a stand against a demonstration protests against illegal immigrants  coming to the US. The people participating in the demonstration doesn´t seem to consider that they themselves are descendants from illegal immigrants (at least seen from the perspective of the Amerindians). This girl tries to make it clear to them.
Interesting is also to notice that an Asian woman, probably a first generation immigrant   according to her accent and judging from the Natives girls words to her, is participating in the demonstration against immigrants.
 
 
 
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Yeah. She is not the only one that think white, black and asian people should go back to theirs continents. If you ask me, I would start with extreme environmentalists LOL
 
Even more, others think Spain and the Catholic church should return the mountain of silver that was Potosi, and that help to finance Europe and to build the Vatican.


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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Yeah. She is not the only one that think white, black and asian people should go back to theirs continents. If you ask me, I would start with extreme environmentalists LOL
 
Or extreme capitalists who destroy everything for profit.
 
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