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Poll Question: Which was the greatest modern army?
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    Posted: 16-Mar-2006 at 21:07

I vote for the German army. Overall, it was definetly the best trained, best equiped, and best lead army.

Note: dont choose the US or Russia just because they were superpowers, think about their armies over all, with specific attention to the world wars.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Illuminati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 01:26
When taking into consideration the world wars, I'd have to pick Germany. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gharanai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 02:34

Same here I too would like to go with Germany as the World was rolled by them before World Wars and even after they were defeated they didn't loss it all.

 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 05:42
Ups i put my vote with the americans because i don't see the explanation about the WW. In that case, Germany and with few difference Russia.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ataman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 07:27
Why there are only these options to vote? I would like to vote Vietnamese or / and Israeli army.
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Comparing the German Army in World War II as a modern army?  That war was over 50 years ago.  Most of the participants are dead?  What's wrong with you people?

Modern?   HA!

The United States, without a doubt, is the best.  Through sheer economics, the United States can crush any nation's army.  Conquering a nation, well that is another matter.  That is determined more by the will of the free people of the United States.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote merced12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 07:49
modern army ,of course american army
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 08:45
Modern army, man for man, British army without a doubt, all motivated volunteers, best trained and best led.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Maljkovic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 09:23
Just what does modern mean here? Situation today? Overall achievements in the XX. century? Achievements since the founding of modern armies whose tradition has remained till today? You'll have to clarify that before I give you my answer...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ataman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 10:14

Originally posted by Travis Congleton

The United States, without a doubt, is the best.  Through sheer economics, the United States can crush any nation's army. 

Thanks to the weapon of mass destruction also Russia can crush every state (including USA).

If we will consider only 'traditional' weapon, I doubt if USA can win with Chinese army (win - means conquer and control a country).

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ponce de Leon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 10:24
Well Russia after the cold war mysteriously started losing her nukes. Now that frightens me because before the nukes were in very tight security areas. Now they can belong to any russian mafia wacko, or any other wacko across the world. (Good job for keeping ur nukes away from the wrong hands guys)

Anyway without a doubt the Americans have the best army. And another thing...who the hell voted for the Italians having the best army?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 11:32
Originally posted by prsn41ife

I vote for the German army. Overall, it was definetly the best trained, best equiped, and best lead army.

Note: dont choose the US or Russia just because they were superpowers, think about their armies over all, with specific attention to the world wars.

Germany certainly had a well trained army, but it's troop's quality and fighting spirit probably came more from the fitness and competitiive values imbued into them by the Hitler Youth, than what they learned in the army training camp.

Their C in C was Hitler, making them one of the worst lead armies ever.

Their equpment most certainly was good in some highly glamourous areas, they also had a good deal of mediocre and pretty poor equipment in less well publicised areas. Overall equipmentwise they were no better than average.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote xristar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 11:51

Germany certainly had a well trained army, but it's troop's quality and fighting spirit probably came more from the fitness and competitiive values imbued into them by the Hitler Youth, than what they learned in the army training camp.

I don't think that the Hitelr Youth was so popular that all German soldiers were members of it. Also, what you say applies mostly to infantry. What about tank crews? They didn't have better equipment than their opponents but they were better in combat. What about officers? The German officers showed a superior tactical and strategical awareness than everyone else in the war(s).

I don't understand why someone would vote for the US. What have the US accomplished? Plus, Russians won due to quantity of means, not due to quality.

The British are so eager to fight that the British army accepts gays in order to have sufficient manpower! (Apart of this it's very probable that indeed the Brits are now the best trained)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Travis Congleton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 12:35
"If we will consider only 'traditional' weapon, I doubt if USA can win with Chinese army (win - means conquer and control a country)."
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Even nuclear weapons aside, so you believe the Chinese will have an easier time invading the United States than the United States invading China?  Both are bleak situations, but the United States' logistically effort could make the invasion possible.  China would never make it across the Pacific Ocean.

Again The United States, at this time and probably since the mid-1980s, nuclear weapons aside, is the greatest modern army.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 16:46
Originally posted by xristar

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I don't understand why someone would vote for the US. What have the US accomplished?
The best land, air and sea armed force of the history is not a small achievement  If you ask me about the WW, that is other thing...

Plus, Russians won due to quantity of means, not due to quality.

The equipment and tactics of the Red Army after 1943, and specially in 1944 and 1945 was the best of the world. Between 1945 and 1985-90 was  the strong  land army of the Earth, and the importance of the RA in the 30's was huge, with greats contributions to the concept of Blitzkrieg.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 16:48

The best land, air and sea armed force of the history is not a small achievement  If you ask me about the WW, that is other thing...

If the British armed forces were as big, they would be better.  Or if you shrink down teh US armed forces to the size of the UK armed forces, the UK's will be better.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Iranian41ife Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 17:16

i meant modern army as in from 1900-2006.

i meant modern age army.

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Originally posted by Zagros

The best land, air and sea armed force of the history is not a small achievement  If you ask me about the WW, that is other thing...

If the British armed forces were as big, they would be better.  Or if you shrink down teh US armed forces to the size of the UK armed forces, the UK's will be better.



individual training perhaps, but when it coomes to larger units, the UK isn't as good. The US has better large-scale units, primarily because the US has alot more large training centers. And the RAF is not all that amazing when compared with the USAF's technology. What major thing has the RAF invented lately? Most of the more revolutionary plane technology is coming out of the USAF. Plus, the US army has some pretty freaky things that jsut aren't in implementation for the whole army to use yet. "smart" bullets, and tactical uniforms that can allow soldiers to carry 50% more weight becuase the suit is designed to act like another system of muscles (allowing for faster running speeds, increased jumpin ability, etc..). Not to mention it's deisnged to perform medical duties on it's own if the soldier is down. it gives read-outs of vital signs, and will even inject the soldier with morphine on its own, and can call for a medic on its own. Also, can't forget to mention that the material the suit is made out of is designed to go rock-hard the instant it senses the impact of a bullet. It's supposed to be in wide-scale implementaition around 2025 I think.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Iranian41ife Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Mar-2006 at 00:40

yea man, the US army is coming up with the craziest equipment ever thought of!

the US army in 50 years is going to kick some serious a$$, although it already does, it will kick more!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Mar-2006 at 04:49
What is Austro-Hungarian if we are talking about the modern age?
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