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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 04:14
Dear 'all',
   Hi there. Best wishesh and respect. One thing I'll say about Korean language is that some linguists put it in Ural-Altaic group; and some don't. But what is obvious is that there's a lot of common words in both languages. They call themselves 'Han'. For innstance, I should say:
'qamchi', both in Turkic and Korean languages, 'tagh' in both, 'ini' in Turkic and 'ni' in Korean, 'chin' in Turkic and 'jin' in Korean and a lot more... I could show you of more examples if you want. Even the suffixes like 'lik' and 'chi' in Turkic languages are somewhere used in Korean too. That's about it for the time being. Take good care and take it easy.http://www.allempir


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 04:24
Dear all,
   Hi there. Well, I don't know why my message have been posted two times. Anyhow, Finnish languages is classified as Finno-Ugric languages which is closely related to Ural-Altaic. Now, some minorities of Finland like Yaps (check the spelling) might have Asian ancestors long time ago, but we can't claim they're Turkic. Take care...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 05:37
Turks say that at first turks came into being and then homo sapiens.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 05:56
Well, after I have read so many things in this and other fora, I thought that it was true.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 07:12
Other than a slight relation in languages, no relation of bloodline. Nevrmind such BS.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 08:16

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! STOP!!!! STOP!!! STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!

Please, don't mix the passive and shy Finnish into this  "Ural-Altaic" theory, which is no more. It was made up when linguistics was just in its first steps. The theory was based on the fact, that all languages in the so-called "Ural-Altaic" family are agglunative, but hey, so are some Papuan language families to name but a few!! Stop this stupid provocative action I say!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 08:34

Stupidness

As Always, Turkish  nationalism are  full of dream and naiveness.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 10:13

From my research, i know that Finns originate from the central asia, around the same place as the Turks and the Magyars (Huns). THey are often described as Turanoids. I would however doubt that they are Turks rather a 'far relation'. Finns having blue eyes and blonde hair doesnt really prove much as so do some Magyars and even some Turks.

Interestingly, there is an area in Finland called TURKU JA PORI, this could be due to the fact that in ancient times Turk was a word linked to powerful, or it may just meen nothing. More info on the topic would be great


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 10:17

TURKU, means "market"... no comment on the rest, it becomes tiresome.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 10:19
Turku comes from an old Russian word, and means market place/town. Surely it's the Russians who are Turks, and not the Finns.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 10:35

Russians are Russians

Finns are Finns

Hungarians are Hungarians

Turks are Turks...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 12:42
It think Finno-Ugric exodus is outermost from Brittish Islands, either they carried their Finno-Ugric language therefrom (like Englishmen carried their language over to America), or they shifted language when they came to Ural Mts. I think their exodus from Asia or eastern Europe is overexhaused, and rather represent a viewpoint how some historians wanted (or wants) it to be.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 19:42
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Stupidness

As Always, Turkish  nationalism are  full of dream and naiveness.

Not more than islamic unity dreams and arabic slavery efforts...

BTW, Turkish nationalism is not consisted of claiming the Finnish, Hungarian, etc.... identities.

First you should have some knowledge about it....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 19:48
Originally posted by Kuu-ukko Kuu-ukko wrote:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! STOP!!!! STOP!!! STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!

Please, don't mix the passive and shy Finnish into this  "Ural-Altaic" theory, which is no more. It was made up when linguistics was just in its first steps. The theory was based on the fact, that all languages in the so-called "Ural-Altaic" family are agglunative, but hey, so are some Papuan language families to name but a few!! Stop this stupid provocative action I say!!!!!


Perhaps, but the reverberations of this theory still echoe in people's consciences, as it was a basic theory while it held. I am sure that what you say it's true, but many Finns, Hungarians and Estonians still believe the old theory and spread it, just because they haven't been up-to-date with the latest info. So it is only natural to still hear this theory mentioned quite often.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 21:23

The interesting question is that if this stuff that we see in many of the threads in this site posted by the people from Turkey is what they officially teach in schools in Turkey or it is just a coincident that a few people from Turkey here seem forum have fascistic views and a sense of history complex. If it is the first reason, government of Turkey has taken a very dangerous path to create artificial sense pride for its citizen


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 22:20
Originally posted by hani hani wrote:

The interesting question is that if this stuff that we see in many of the threads in this site posted by the people from Turkey is what they officially teach in schools in Turkey or it is just a coincident that a few people from Turkey here seem forum have fascistic views and a sense of history complex. If it is the first reason, government of Turkey has taken a very dangerous path to create artificial sense pride for its citizen

Look at the term "Imagined Community", as defined by Tobodai, at the "Mediterranean Insecurity" thread, top of page 2, and read through.
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Originally posted by hani hani wrote:

The interesting question is that if this stuff that we see in many of the threads in this site posted by the people from Turkey is what they officially teach in schools in Turkey or it is just a coincident that a few people from Turkey here seem forum have fascistic views and a sense of history complex. If it is the first reason, government of Turkey has taken a very dangerous path to create artificial sense pride for its citizen


That stuff belongs to ultra-rightist turanists. Turkish history education mainly dials with Turkic  dynasties, etc., not Finns or Hungarians... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jul-2005 at 02:34

Hulaguhan, well Turkish  dream"Turan" created by a Tatar,

Should I remind you, Nihal Atsiz(another leader of Turan) is more fasist than Hitler?

Not more than islamic unity dreams

No, not more than it, both is stupidness and naiveness.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jul-2005 at 02:39

what kotumeyil said is true, noone is teaching them Finns are Turk.

Even Pan-Turkism is not something glorified in Turkish Education.

It is mostly accepted a dream,  we know Talat followed that dream.

And we know result.

This is nothing related with Turkish Education system.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jul-2005 at 02:42

Originally posted by strategos strategos wrote:

so far ive heard some turks claim that everyone from korea to bulgaria, and now finland,  is a turk...

Yeah!

the Turkish government have been promoting the "Sun Theory" for 80 years.Therefore it shouldn't come as a surprise that many of our Turkish friends are so brain-washed in claimnig such absudities!

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