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It appears from exist polling done yesterday in Ireland that the incumbent Fianna Fail Party is in for a political beating in the EU Parliament elections with the Fianna Gael being the main winner, Labour and Sein Fein are not doing badly ether.

The center-right is also the big winner in Germany and Austria also.


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UKIP got my vote.  BNP seem to have amassed 9% of the vote. Big losses for Labour (good, go to hell); Conservatives marginally up.

Though the conservatives seem to have had a clean sweep at the local elections.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jun-2009 at 23:47
Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

UKIP got my vote.  BNP seem to have amassed 9% of the vote. Big losses for Labour (good, go to hell); Conservatives marginally up.

Though the conservatives seem to have had a clean sweep at the local elections.


Speaking of the BNP has also won it's first seat in the European parliament tonight.

However overall throughout Europe the center-right has made moderate gains.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jun-2009 at 10:32
The BNP has won it's second seat in the European Parliament and it's been an awful night for Labour. The Scottish results aren't officially in yet though, however they should be interesting to see.
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Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:

It appears from exist polling done yesterday in Ireland that the incumbent Fianna Fail Party is in for a political beating in the EU Parliament elections with the Fianna Gael being the main winner, Labour and Sein Fein are not doing badly ether.

The center-right is also the big winner in Germany and Austria also.
 
Fianna Fáil got a roasting throughout the country in the local and European elections. Up here in the North West constituency Declan Ganley of Libertas narrowly missed out on the third seat, but he dragged the entire campaign out anyway. The dud.
 
BNP Bastards snuck in two seats in the UK. Its a worrying sign when almost a million British voters would vote for scum like Nick Griffin.
 
Fianna Fáil also lost the two Dáil parliamentary by elections. Its quite possible that if the Greens pulled out of the by election the Dáil could call a vote of no confidence and cause a General election. Its not even necessary for the Greens to pull out, all it would take is a few (Maybe 5-6) Fianna Fáil rebels and the government could be brought down. Considering how badly this country has suffered in the depression its a wonder that there hasn't been riots like in Iceland etc. Ireland is in for an interesting political 6 months.
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Hello to you all
 
The far right actually won less votes than last time. It is because the low turnout (40% on average compared with more than 50%) that put them on the map.
 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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Though I completely agree, I just don't see that happening. :(
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It would be a mistake to see UKIP (UK Independence Party) as far right, or even right-wing. It includes a lot of people who would normally vote Liberal (or even Labour) but who are opposed to the EU - the British Liberal party is the most EU-favouring of the country's parties.
 
A Liberal myself, it was a relief to see the party more-or-less static, but sad to see votes that on domestic issues would probably have come to us, go to the anti-EU movement.
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The Pirates now have a eurodeputy and that's all that matters in this year's election.
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Originally posted by Styrbiorn Styrbiorn wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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Though I completely agree, I just don't see that happening. :(


I'd disagree. Political institutions have to keep pace with the effects of globalisation. Failure to do so will leave Europe far behind the great economies of the east in the future.
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:

It appears from exist polling done yesterday in Ireland that the incumbent Fianna Fail Party is in for a political beating in the EU Parliament elections with the Fianna Gael being the main winner, Labour and Sein Fein are not doing badly ether.

The center-right is also the big winner in Germany and Austria also.
 
Fianna Fáil got a roasting throughout the country in the local and European elections. Up here in the North West constituency Declan Ganley of Libertas narrowly missed out on the third seat, but he dragged the entire campaign out anyway. The dud.
 
BNP Bastards snuck in two seats in the UK. Its a worrying sign when almost a million British voters would vote for scum like Nick Griffin.
 
Fianna Fáil also lost the two Dáil parliamentary by elections. Its quite possible that if the Greens pulled out of the by election the Dáil could call a vote of no confidence and cause a General election. Its not even necessary for the Greens to pull out, all it would take is a few (Maybe 5-6) Fianna Fáil rebels and the government could be brought down. Considering how badly this country has suffered in the depression its a wonder that there hasn't been riots like in Iceland etc. Ireland is in for an interesting political 6 months.

A million?

Liberal figures: 

UK population 60 million, eligible to vote: 78% = 46.8m
EU election turnout: 33% = 15.6m
BNP Share 6.5% = 1 million

That is a lot.  But then again if there was a full turnout they would only have 2% of the vote because it is safe to assume that the BNP itself had a near 100% turnout.
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Originally posted by Styrbiorn Styrbiorn wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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Though I completely agree, I just don't see that happening. :(


I'd disagree. Political institutions have to keep pace with the effects of globalisation. Failure to do so will leave Europe far behind the great economies of the east in the future.
 
Precisely. There is no way back, only forward, towards a stronger union both on economical as on political issues. But there is no way that's going to happen until the European Parliament is properly empowered or a weird coincidence happens and we finally have only pro-integration and pro-federalist heads-of-government in the Council of the European Union. Otherwise the EU will remain in this stagnation that really doesn't benifit anyone, but is much safer than simply "calling off the whole thing".
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Originally posted by Parnell Parnell wrote:

Originally posted by Styrbiorn Styrbiorn wrote:

Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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Though I completely agree, I just don't see that happening. :(


I'd disagree. Political institutions have to keep pace with the effects of globalisation. Failure to do so will leave Europe far behind the great economies of the east in the future.

With nothing limiting trade and a common currency, I don't see why it would leave Europe behind. I see a united Europe as a big step backwards, not forwards.
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

Hello to you all
 
The far right actually won less votes than last time. It is because the low turnout (40% on average compared with more than 50%) that put them on the map.
 
As for why, well it is obvious. People are sick and tired for their lives being legistlated for them in Brusseles by bureaucrats. It time to dissovle the EU and return it to what it was really was, an economic alliance.
 
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the economic down turn should also add some gravity towards the hairy scary right, or at least as you suggest grow apathy amongst the moderates. Hungary would be a case in point.
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I think that is BS tbh, no one would vote for the BNP if they weren't intrinsically racist or xenophobic.
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Originally posted by Kevin Kevin wrote:

The center-right is also the big winner in Germany and Austria also.


can't speak for Austria but the Christian-Conservatives, which you call center-right, lost votes to the other parties, biggest winner being the Liberals. they are only considdered "winners" by lunatics and because the social-democrats lost even more heavily compared to their losses. the european elections also coincided with communal elections and Stuttgart is getting a Green city council. i have to say i'm appaled by this, fortunately i don't have to go there anymore.
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