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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote khutulun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Dec-2007 at 06:42
Originally posted by Penelope Penelope wrote:

I would like for someone to attempt to prove to me, that the Mongols, as a WHOLE, were Turks.
 
Not sure if you are still around, and I understand I am picking up an old thread (my prerogative) but your question or challenge confused me.  Was anyone claiming Mongols, in whole or part, were Turks?  You are the first person I've come across whose thrown a challenge against...a non existent argument. 
 
Turks and Mongols are different peoples, though they share a kinship, due to proximity, similarities in language, culture, and religion and of course, intermarriage.   (Turks as in Turkic peoples)
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Before Islam, there was very little difference between Turk and Mongol. Two different people yes, but we are Altai, and any Altai educated in their own history know this as a fact. There is no such policy as only a "pure" Turk or a "pure" Mongol. There's not even such a term as "pure" Altai. We do not have "racial" thinking on the steppes.
 
Turk is a complicated word, united Altai consider Turkic and Turkish two completely different things. However, not to doubt the Turkish have Altai roots, though, their hearts have changed over many centuries due to Islam, intermixing and cultural assimilation.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2008 at 15:41
^go back to AF subotai

Islam has changed the Turks but not that much as the change in geography did. Cultural exchange & living to gether with Non-altaic people
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
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When I mention Islam, I'm not mentioning Sufism tujue, no need to get all worked up.

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still I stand by my point
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pebbles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Feb-2009 at 06:42
Originally posted by Penelope Penelope wrote:

 
I would like for someone to attempt to prove to me, that the Mongols, as a WHOLE, were Turks.
 
 
 
Such an attempt is politically motivated by Pan-Turkic or Pan-Altaic enthusiasts in cyberspace and underground movement.
 
This small group of individuals try to form a phantom alliance or an united front against the Chinese,more specifically confront PRC's rule over Turkic peoples within its borders.
 
 
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