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Come on, Jutland showed that the germans were no match for the RN, only Jellicoe's stupidity prevented the total annihilation of the Kaisermarine after he refused to chase it fearing an ambush despite that the naval intelligence told him there were non. Had Beatty been the commander that day not only the RN wouldn't have lost that many ships but they would have been completely victorious.
 
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what's a "Kaisermarine"?
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Originally posted by Temujin Temujin wrote:

what's a "Kaisermarine"?


Probably German navy under Kaiser Wilhelm Big%20smile


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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

Come on, Jutland showed that the germans were no match for the RN, only Jellicoe's stupidity prevented the total annihilation of the Kaisermarine
 
Annihilation of German navy in an open battle would have meant a great harm to the Royal Navy. And I am doubtful whether German Navy would be very willing for a more open encounter rather than running back to their safe havens in Jade,Kiel and Wilhelmshaven.
 
Both sides were reluctant in Jutland. So, it ended that way. The fact that Royal Navy was larger in terms of numbers do not mean that they would have easily annihilated the German Navy if their commander was not reluctant.
 
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Germany could have won the war earlier if the Kaiser had been more willing to launch a full unrestricted submarine war.  Britain would have been crippled and forced to pull out leaving France on it's own.  In that situation Germany would have won within a few months. 
 
Jellico acted correctly at jutland.  As churchill said Jellico could not win the war in a day but he could have lost it.  He was right to not risk the fleet and continue the attacks.  Yes he might have won, but at a high cost.  Which would have destroyed the Royal Navies ability to blockade Germany.  That blockade is what ultimately won the war.  By 1918 Germany was on its last legs, there was massive starvation going on.  The civilian unrest spread to the military.  The US infolvement had very little effect, as was shown by the massive British and French victories in 1918.  By the time the German's surrendered British and French troops were already across the rhine.  The germans surrendered to avoid the total destruction of their army and country.
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