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    Posted: 09-Mar-2009 at 07:29

The only true and original Turkic genes from Central Asia are Y chromosomes: Haplogroup C3, N3, Q and O3.  The O3 is most like from Chinese and Tibetans who joined the Turkics in a very ancient past, but is still Mongoloid genetics nonetheless.

If you have Haplogroup R, I, J, G or E3, you are simply of the local Indo-European lineage who got conquered by Central Asian nomads and lost your original ancestors language, culture and religion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 20:35
yes this Y chromosomes are founded in native americans blood too.
and if we think that people move to north and south america from north siberia
(btw that's why native americans are mongoloid) and there always lived and still living turkic peoples... then we got only one result that they were turkic too and


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 21:06
Originally posted by feiying feiying wrote:

The only true and original Turkic genes from Central Asia are Y chromosomes: Haplogroup C3, N3, Q and O3.  The O3 is most like from Chinese and Tibetans who joined the Turkics in a very ancient past, but is still Mongoloid genetics nonetheless.

If you have Haplogroup R, I, J, G or E3, you are simply of the local Indo-European lineage who got conquered by Central Asian nomads and lost your original ancestors language, culture and religion.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 21:12
If Tuks are Native American relatives, then, long life to Turkic Global community, that stretches from the Mediterranean to China and the Land of Fire!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 21:24
Jesus had Y chromosome too;he was Turkic!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 22:23
I heard Frodo Baggins was Turkic too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2009 at 20:45
Native americans (kizilderili) was known Turkish, in past  A Turkish professor went to the America, he researched his own DNA, and he noticed he was relative with a native american (so they are Turks) and they meet in the İstanbul. Liric times (:
 
I can't research my DNA now, maybe I will. But I know, I have the pure Turkish genetics (:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2009 at 21:25
Quote Native americans (kizilderili) was known Turkish, in past  A Turkish professor went to the America, he researched his own DNA, and he noticed he was relative with a native american

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2009 at 21:26

Look , a train is going ! chuf chuf chuf ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2009 at 22:54
This post is full of so many fallacies.

Quote Feiying
The only true and original Turkic genes from Central Asia are Y chromosomes: Haplogroup C3, N3, Q and O3.  The O3 is most like from Chinese and Tibetans who joined the Turkics in a very ancient past, but is still Mongoloid genetics nonetheless.


And you knew the "true and original" Turks and conducted genetic studies on them did you Clap

The Chinese described Turks as having moustaches and beards and the Kirgiz Turks as having red hair and coloured eyes. Genetic testing on Xiongnu tombs and ancient Altai tombs show there to be Mongoloid/European admixtures. Today the Kirgiz have one of the highest R1a genetic marker in the world.

Turks being 100% Mongoloid, 100% European, 100% pure, 100% original.... etc all are baseless arguments.

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Native americans (kizilderili) was known Turkish, in past  A Turkish professor went to the America, he researched his own DNA, and he noticed he was relative with a native american (so they are Turks) and they meet in the İstanbul. Liric times (:


Native Americans are not and were not Turkish.

Native Americans and Turks may have shared common ancestors and have some ancient connection, therefore only the most ancient traits of both peoples could possibly share something in common.

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But I know, I have the pure Turkish genetics (:


There are no pure genes!
There are no Turkish, Persian, Greek, Russian, New Zealan etc genes, genetics are older than nations and don't determine nationhood or ethnicity.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 00:32
Originally posted by Bulldog Bulldog wrote:

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Native Americans are not and were not Turkish.

Native Americans and Turks may have shared common ancestors and have some ancient connection, therefore only the most ancient traits of both peoples could possibly share something in common.
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Here it comes again. Your anti-Amerindian attitude is sad.
The fact is even some Chinese educated people see the obvious relation among the peoples of Nprthern Central and East Asia. These people are a single family of humans, that have produced the largest number of civilizations all over the world.
So, if you want to figure it out what had happened if Amerindian had more technology... Well, you can see how Turks scared and dominated Europeans during centuries.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 01:09
Quote Pinguin
Here it comes again. Your anti-Amerindian attitude is sad.
The fact is even some Chinese educated people see the obvious relation among the peoples of Nprthern Central and East Asia. These people are a single family of humans, that have produced the largest number of civilizations all over the world.
So, if you want to figure it out what had happened if Amerindian had more technology... Well, you can see how Turks scared and dominated Europeans during centuries.LOL


The Turks have a saying.

"In life one person understood me and even he understood me wrong" LOL

You have misunderstood me my friend, I have no anti-Amerindian attitude, I have alot of respect and love their civillisations and culture.

Turks and Amerindians could possibly share the same ancestors, there are some similarities in the very old Shamanist beliefs, totems, some tribal designs, legends and customs. These may be coincidence or may stem from an ancient connection.

There is a legend in the Altay region thats goes, the Altay had 3 sons, one went West, one stayed in Altay and one went to the East Wink

And for what its worth, I recently saw some tapestries and weavings in a shop, now I really like Turkic carpets, cushions, tapestries etc and they have distinct designs and vibrant colours, I went to ask what region they were from and the guy told me they were Native American. I was shocked at how similar they were however, I'm no expert so can't say there is a connection but they really look similar. If you have the chance check it out, its very interesting.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 01:41
Indeed. Somebody mentioned me once that Greeks have the same kind of tapestries that Native Americas, and if you see some ancient Jewish cloths you will see the relation as well. These Eurasians peoples shared many things in common.
In any case, in the Americas cotton was cultivated since 8.000 years ago, more or less, and the ealiest textile in the world that is still preserved is from 7000 years ago in the coast of Chile. Curious, isn't?
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Check out my post.

http://www.allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=26837

If you got some nice pics and info share them
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I understood you guys, I understood you , nothing happen, go on what if you do. No problem.
 
One day, the truths will come to the light.
 
I am smiling now, will laugh.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 09:12
Originally posted by MythTR MythTR wrote:

 
 
 
 
One day, the truths will come to the light.
 
 
 
 
Of-course,malicious stupid claims will be exposed LOL
 
* thread on some shameful Turkish claims
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 12:03
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* thread on some shameful Turkish claims


Are we supposed to take this thread full or ignorance and racist hatred seriously?

Amir Temur was a Turk or at the very least Turco-Mongol, he ursurped Mongol power and established a Turki speaking court for his Empire.

And if you want to know who Babur was, he wrote an autobiography were he clearly states he was a Turk.

Moghul is a misnomer it wasn't used by Babur who didn't exactly even like Mongols if we go by what he wrote.

Get your facts straight, to ignorant comments don't make a right, Sumerians being Turks is ridiculous just as claiming Amir Temur and Babur wern't Turks is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 12:45

Ah - I checked my DNA and think I get the truth MythTR is talking about !!!

Adam and Eve were also Turkic - and perhaps even Lucy.

That means I'm Turkish too, and a full blown member of the great Turkic family - wow - It's great to have something in common, isn't it?
But let's be honest! The only thing Europeans have in common is their fear of us Turks!

How often did they interrupt their battles against one another to unite against us? It's a good thing that the Turks appeared on the eastern horizon every once in a while, otherwise the Europeans would have wiped themselves out. There wouldn't be any Europeans today. The conclusion: They owe their existence to us Turks.

Moreover, Europeans repeatedly united because of the Turks. Without the Turks they could never have unified. Thanks to the Turks they have founded a union. Without us Turks there would be no EU today.
In other words, we are more or less the "external co-founders" of the EU.

Turkey und Europe are two counterparts, we are yin and yang.
We Turks spent thousands of years searching in the West for our own yang, and in this cul-de-sac named "Europe" we finally found it. Our fate is sealed. We can no longer do without the Europeans. And the more masochistic we Turks behave, the more sadistic the EU acts.

The EUmans are coming!

But with no desire to get hitched. So far the Europeans have always dictated their norms to us. Now it's our turn. Here are a few Turkish standards:

  • You are adamant about wanting us to give you Cyprus, but it's not going to happen. We can't give you Cyprus; it's against our tradition. It's our custom to marry off the older daughter first, not the younger one.
  • Turks understand "cleanliness" to be "taharatlanmak." In short, Europeans use toilet paper, we use water. That's why our toilets have facilities called "taharat muslugu" for this purpose. Therefore if we ever make it into the EU, every toilet from Portugal to Malta, from Latvia to Sicily must have "taharat muslugu" (except for the Finnish, they've already installed them). In case of an emergency we will also accept cola bottles filled with water.
  • The shadow of every mountain in Europe will be observed from every angle, and every area in which the shadows resemble "Atatürk" will be listed as a historical monument and cordoned off. The grazing of animals of any kind will be prohibited on these sacred grounds.
  • A law will make defiling the European flag illegal. With immediate effect nobody will be allowed to play soccer with the EU flag or to wear it as a bikini. Because one of these innumerable stars is ours. Nevertheless, we are willing to compromise: If someone still insists on wearing it, then the utmost care will be taken to ensure that our Turkish star does not fall directly in the genital area.
  • Democracy is an extremely sensitive affair. It is hypersensitive and must be protected. This task will be entrusted to the military.
  • As soon as we become full members of the EU, the dream of the Ottomans will finally come true and the goal of our Ottoman ancestors will be attained. Istanbul will then be the capital of the EUman Empire, and EU citizens will no longer be called "Europeans," but "EUmans."

Inspired by, and freely translated after M. Omurca



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That is funny. Taharat musluğu is a must!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2009 at 14:21

Bulldog thanks for some good input as usual. We already have senseless threads like these roaming around.

 
This one will be closed.
 
Again thanks to Bulldog and pinguin for some good refutation.
 
 

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