History Community ~ All Empires Homepage


This is the Archive on WORLD Historia, the old original forum.

 You cannot post here - you can only read.

 

Here is the link to the new forum:

  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Calendar   Register Register  Login Login


Forum LockedAttila's family shows that they are Turki

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Attila's family shows that they are Turki
    Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 05:38
they are most probably from the same stock, but they could also be 2 people who lived like brothers (same language and culture)
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
Aelfgifu View Drop Down
Tsar
Tsar
Avatar

Joined: 25-Jun-2006
Location: Netherlands
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3391
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 06:38
These people were loved by the people who now live in the lands but also by Turks because that's what they were. 
 
That does not have to be a problem, does it? You can share your heroes with others. The fact others like your heroes as well is only flattering, is it not?

Women hold their councils of war in kitchens: the knives are there, and the cups of coffee, and the towels to dry the tears.
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 06:42
Turkish people are not greedy , we like to shareLOL
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
Maziar View Drop Down
Immortal Guard
Immortal Guard
Avatar
Arteshbod

Joined: 06-Nov-2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1157
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 13:30
Afsar Beghi i am sure you won't share your Baklava with meWink
After many years of nomad life style Turks now try to predefine their cultural nationality. This is not a bad thing, it is very usefull for Turks to strengthen their national feeling. But it's a pitty they exagrate a bit.
Back to Top
xi_tujue View Drop Down
Editorial Staff
Editorial Staff
Avatar
Atabeg

Joined: 19-May-2006
Location: Belgium
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1919
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 14:35
Originally posted by Maziar

Afsar Beghi i am sure you won't share your Baklava with meWink
After many years of nomad life style Turks now try to predefine their cultural nationality. This is not a bad thing, it is very usefull for Turks to strengthen their national feeling. But it's a pitty they exagrate a bit.
are ypu talking about the cypriots wanted to make baklava as their national hmmmm sweetery or cake. but no offence they can't make it like Anteps. their doe is as thin as paper. the cypriot baklava looked like I don't now pie.
 
btw baklava is  turkish but not turk(i mean baklava is a local dish it a couple of thousand years old. So it persian or arab like marash.
 
mazair you can buy some at your local turkish market. you live in germany so you know there are 3 on every street.
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2006 at 17:46
Maziar of course we will share , you can have mine because baklava has too much sugarSmile


Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
Raider View Drop Down
General
General
Avatar

Joined: 06-Jun-2005
Location: Hungary
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 804
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 02:44
For Attila's name:
 
It could be gothic, but some later explanation derives the turkic word from Etil, Itil (? I can't remember exactly) which means "river".
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 07:14
thats also a possibility , he was born near the Volga river which was called etil or itil
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
Urungu Han View Drop Down
Housecarl
Housecarl
Avatar

Joined: 17-Jul-2006
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 08:01

Huns are Turkic,they are the sons of First Turks(Kyun Huns).

All historians say that always.

Nonbelievers must enter the google "Hun Turks".

 

Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 14:48
Urungu Han kardes (brother) , there is no doubt that the Huns were of turkic stock, they are also the ancestors of the Turkmens
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
xi_tujue View Drop Down
Editorial Staff
Editorial Staff
Avatar
Atabeg

Joined: 19-May-2006
Location: Belgium
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1919
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 16:28
Originally posted by Afsar Beghi

Urungu Han kardes (brother) , there is no doubt that the Huns were of turkic stock, they are also the ancestors of the Turkmens
 
dude when he says turk je doesn't mean anatolian turks he means all of them
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 16:30
who said anything about anatolian turks ?
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
xi_tujue View Drop Down
Editorial Staff
Editorial Staff
Avatar
Atabeg

Joined: 19-May-2006
Location: Belgium
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1919
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 17:21
because you said turmens also like you were excluding some my bad
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 17:23
I actually ment the Oguz tribe by turkmensSmile
I read it somewhere but maybe its not correct
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
xi_tujue View Drop Down
Editorial Staff
Editorial Staff
Avatar
Atabeg

Joined: 19-May-2006
Location: Belgium
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1919
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 17:35
Originally posted by Afsar Beghi

I actually ment the Oguz tribe by turkmensSmile
I read it somewhere but maybe its not correct
your right oghuz are turkmen.
 
dude I have this problem I'm an ahiska turk so were are according to scholarsof the oghuz branch but before ottomans we were undere rule of kipchack atabegs.
 
oghuz or kipchack
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2006 at 18:05
definitely kipchak (ethnic) but the language belongs to the oguz group of turkic


Edited by Afsar Beghi - 17-Jul-2006 at 18:09
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
Urungu Han View Drop Down
Housecarl
Housecarl
Avatar

Joined: 17-Jul-2006
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2006 at 04:03

kipchak Turks-now Nogays arent them?

İn kırşehir and eskişehir(Turkey) there are many nogays(kipchaks).
 
Nogay Turks are speaking Kipckak Turkish,Oguz Turkish is a little different
Back to Top
Suevari View Drop Down
Immortal Guard
Immortal Guard
Avatar

Joined: 04-Mar-2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 85
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2006 at 08:32
Originally posted by A t t i L a

Attila's uncle Aybars= Ay(white) Pars(wild animal)

Ay means moon and pars/bars means panther, so it's moon-panther



The Huns were Turkic, there is still some speculation linking their roots to the Xiong-nu, but what other explanation is there.  The vast majority of historians certify their Turkic roots and some linguistic links are clear today.
www.passport.panda.org
SIGN UP TO PARTICIPATE IN NATURAL PRESERVATION
Back to Top
xi_tujue View Drop Down
Editorial Staff
Editorial Staff
Avatar
Atabeg

Joined: 19-May-2006
Location: Belgium
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1919
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2006 at 13:19
I'm an ahiska turk i'm might be kipchack two originaly living in the south of the caucasus and part of northern turkey
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
Back to Top
Afsar Beghi View Drop Down
Consul
Consul
Avatar

Joined: 18-Jun-2006
Location: Azerbaijan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 342
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2006 at 17:38
there is much bullsh*t about ahiska turks on the net.
They even say that they were originally georgiansConfused
But if you look at the world map of 1100, you see that the area of the ahiska turks is within the Kipchak Khanate
Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur,
Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur,
Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir,
Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.059 seconds.