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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Suren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Nov-2008 at 00:35
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Cyrus Shahmiri wrote:

Should we force them to speak just Persian? Is it a good way to help them to find their own identity? and does it help Iranians to be more united?

I think we can design a type of Virus which change their language to Persian, then spread it in Azerbaijan. Although we have to accept the consequences which virus may backfire and change our language to Azari and again their are minority, so what's the point of it?!Wink

If we could only follow our dear western neighbors (Arabs,Turks) in the past, we would not have these problems now!Embarrassed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Nov-2008 at 12:39
Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:

I said the region, didn't I?


Non-regional forces, which can mean a lot depending on how the region is defined.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Nov-2008 at 13:35
You defined it as Iran, not me.  So you can derive any reasonable definition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2008 at 21:24
"Some things I have seen have changed my stance recently.  In addition, I promote the forceful eviction of all non-regional forces - i.e. the euro-american imperialists. - at whatever cost."

What changed your stance?
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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As a Turk ıt ıs very offansive the thread. Its full of racism.

İ dont see racist post in a history forum.

Moderators where ıs the human rights. Firs post isnt diffrent from nazi genoidoce.

İ hope this thread close immadetly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Suren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Nov-2008 at 07:51
Don't worry Azaris can be Turk or whatever-else as long as they live in Iran. They are our fellow countrymen and we love them. No hard feeling. Wink
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I just asked some question in the first post, I myself never give affirmative responses to them. It really doesn't matter in what language we speak, we are all Iranian (people of Iran).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote osmantus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Nov-2008 at 13:42
Yuo can be all the citizen of İran islam republic. Thats true.
But Azeris are diffrent etnicity from iranians(or pers). You believe or not they are Turkic.
And govermant can not force them to change their language or culture.
İts againts the human rights.
And something like this can be happen you cannot believe the reaction of turks from all the world.
İt can start a war between Turkey an İran. İ think you and me dont want a thing like this.
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I think we should find first what types of human rights are respected by the Iranian government!! Anyway don’t worry about this matter, language or culture is not something which can be easily changed by a government, especially when more than one third of the population speak a language.
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It seems to become a troublemaker thread!
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Aryanization??? Is this something like making someone to a gypsy???
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Originally posted by Pomak Pomak wrote:

Aryanization??? Is this something like making someone to a gypsy???
 
Good question, I was wondering the same. I think he meant Persianization.
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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Should we force them to speak just Persian? Is it a good way to help them to find their own identity? and does it help Iranians to be more united?
 
If I was involved in American pollitics I'd say, "go for it", it would be great for those wanting to cause instability in Iran. 
 
I would propose all countries in the region signed a pact and granted full cultural rights to all citizens with no conditions ie right for whatever language to be taught in schools alongside the official national language and so forth.
 
The status quo solves nothing, Turks in Iran won't stop talking Turki, Kurds in Turkey won't stop speaking Kurdish etc etc
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Originally posted by Cent Cent wrote:

Originally posted by Pomak Pomak wrote:

Aryanization??? Is this something like making someone to a gypsy???
Good question, I was wondering the same. I think he meant Persianization.

Ayran and Iran are two different spellings of the same word so I don't see any problem with his choice of words.
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Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Omar al Hashim wrote:

Originally posted by Cent Cent wrote:

Originally posted by Pomak Pomak wrote:

Aryanization??? Is this something like making someone to a gypsy???
Good question, I was wondering the same. I think he meant Persianization.

Ayran and Iran are two different spellings of the same word so I don't see any problem with his choice of words.
 
What is aryanization? Making them speak Kurdish? You have to understand that not only Persians can claim to be Aryans.
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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Well in fact the title of the thread is Aryanisation of Turkified or Arabised Iranians, and neither Turks nor Arabs are Aryans. So if you really want you can pretend he meant making them speak Kurdish but this being far too nick picky than even I am prepared to think is reasonable.


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Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Cyrus Shahmiri wrote:

Should we force them to speak just Persian? Is it a good way to help them to find their own identity? and does it help Iranians to be more united?
 
1- who are the Turkified or Arabized Iranians?
2- what do you mean by "Persian"? a currenet persian language or the very old one?
3- what identity you are talking about? Iranian identity? is that one language?
 
 
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